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00:19 < _trophaeum> spider pig? what in the world have i missed?
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00:54 < Whisller> Good night
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07:18 < RossC0> huomenta
07:18 < RossC0> splatch_: I saw one of your articles was on dzone!
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07:41 < _cheerios> huomenta!
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08:32 < Whisller> hi
08:43 < v-dogg> huomenta
08:45 < RossC0> huomenta!
08:47 < v-dogg> what's up
08:49 < RossC0> css - restyling the site ready for internal launch!
08:49 < RossC0> woot!
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08:55 < _cheerios> cool :)
08:56 < _cheerios> have you looked at tangler.com? they're tieing up forums quite nicely with their embedded widget.
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09:14 < RossC0> _cheerios: had a brief look - seems cool
09:22 < luke`> huomenta
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09:30 < Wombert> CAN I HAS CHEEZBURGER?
09:32 < trophaeum> lol
09:33 < trophaeum> that site... hurts my eyes
09:33 < trophaeum> *purchases another 3 domains* blah, so many domains lately
09:35 < _cheerios> i bought two domains yesterday myself. just in case :)
09:35 < ttj> I just ordered four shirts and a cotton cashmere V-neck knit.
09:35 < trophaeum> 3 domains for sites that are just going to be wordpress to pump out some crap to get visitors and adsense impressions
09:39 < trophaeum> god i love how fast delegation is these days
09:39 < _cheerios> you have many blogs like that? how much do they make?
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09:41 < ttj> That's one form of entrepreneurship that I don't really like. :-/
09:50 < trophaeum> lol, got a couple, most arent ready yet, found some content to get these up tho, in the order of 100/mo each tho
09:54  * Wombert hugs RossC0 
09:54 < Wombert> a delicious link!
09:55 < ttj> What is?
09:57 < Wombert> http://www.refwell.com/blog/index.php/2007/01/25/full-dulpex-ajax-module-for-lighttpd/
09:58 < Wombert> "frameworks e.g. Ruby On Rails, PHP, Python"
09:58 < Wombert> zomg
10:01 < RossC0> yeah
10:03 < Wombert> but
10:04 < Wombert> it sounds pretty good, doesn't it?
10:09 < _cheerios> familiar link ;) seemed interesting, ye
10:09 < _cheerios> love the comment :D
10:13 < _cheerios> trophaeum, 100/mo on average with crap blogs? Nice. I suck at making money online.
10:13 < trophaeum> _cheerios, learning seo pays off :)
10:15 < _cheerios> how many pageviews per month on those blogs to get that 100?
10:19 < _cheerios> timeplot looks cool, RossC0. I need a timeline of sorts, been looking at graphins tools, but this might be better
10:23 < RossC0> _cheerios: I used their timeline last year and it worked well
10:25 < _cheerios> i just read further, no IE support and.. is it hosted?
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11:07 < Wombert> want more symfony channel awesomeness?
11:07 < Wombert> [13:06] chrilleh: How do I make a submit button with a javascript popup to confirm before submitting the form?
11:07 < Wombert> [13:06] chrilleh: there is a helper method for that right, i just can´t find it..
11:08 < ttj> Oh. My. God.
11:12 < ttj> Haha, some sort of "self-help, feel better, etc." course is starting at work. I wonder if I should go there. :P
11:12 < _cheerios> has ttj already ordered "survival after the crash" ? ;)
11:13 < ttj> Hmm?
11:13 < _cheerios> you seemed uppity about the market earlier
11:13 < ttj> Ah. Fortunately I only invest money that I don't happen to need and don't see any real use for in the next year or two. :-)
11:15 < luke`> _cheerios: try http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/
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12:30 < SunboX> hi, why do i get this error-msg?
12:30 < SunboX> Warning: Propel::include() [function.include]: Failed opening '' for inclusion
12:39 < SunboX> (include_path='C:\Apache\xampp\htdocs\oe3\www\lib;C:\Apache\xampp\htdocs\oe3\www\lib/propel/runtime/classes;C:\Apache\xampp\htdocs\oe3\www\app/lib/propel') in C:\Apache\xampp\htdocs\oe3\www\lib\propel\runtime\classes\propel\Propel.php on line 237
12:46 < luke`> Hi SunboX 
12:46 < luke`> when do you get this error?
12:47 < SunboX> if i trie to access the database
12:47 < SunboX> via propel
12:47 < SunboX> seems that agavi cant find the config
12:48 < SunboX> this is my configuration
12:48 < SunboX> http://p.caboo.se/private/ccugmsfuew5ms3zqkb
12:49 < Wombert> propel 1.2?
12:50 < SunboX> Propel.php 630 2007-05-08
12:50 < Wombert> uhm
12:51 < SunboX> 1.3.0-dev
12:51 < SunboX> should i get propel 1.2?
12:51 < Wombert> nah
12:52 < Wombert> where do you access the database?
12:54 < SunboX> hm, in my LoginAction.class
12:54 < SunboX> Propel gets an empty config-file string at init
12:55 < SunboX> why does this happen?
12:56 < SunboX> Unable to open configuration file: NULL
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12:59 < SunboX> AgaviPropelDatabase->getConfigPath() returns an empty string
13:02 < luke`> SunboX: check settings.xml
13:03 < luke`> SunboX: <setting name="use_database">false</setting>
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13:08 < Wombert> luke`: good catch
13:08 < Wombert> that's it
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13:15 < SunboX> damn! thats it
13:15 < SunboX> thanks a lot
13:16 < SunboX> all works as expacted
13:19 < SunboX> i should do more updates... to learn about settings :D
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17:40 < splatch_> Wombert: ping
17:44 < Wombert> splatch_: pong
17:49 < splatch_> Wombert: i've a small problem
17:49 < splatch_> with agavi xml schemas
17:50 < splatch_> i try to read it from java
17:50 < splatch_> but i can't create 'binding' because there is used "global" namespace
17:50 < splatch_> for all elements
17:50 < Wombert> uuhm
17:51 < splatch_> configuration class for autoloads is overriden by configuration class for validation etc.
17:52 < Wombert> ah you mean because it's always <configurations>?
17:52 < splatch_> yes, in the same namespace
17:52 < Wombert> or do you mean the <configuration> trikc
17:52 < Wombert> that's overridden in each .xsd
17:53 < splatch_> yeah
17:53 < splatch_> {agavi.org/agavi/1.0/config}configuration is always root element
17:53 < Wombert> :(
17:53 < splatch_> {agavi.org/agavi/1.0/config}configurationbut
17:53 < splatch_> but
17:53 < splatch_> that's not only problem :)
17:54 < splatch_> when i change binding definition in class generator
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17:54 < splatch_> the default_tags will be generated always in other place
17:55 < splatch_> for one .xsd i can specify target java package
17:55 < splatch_> but i can't do this for included schemas
17:56 < splatch_> Wombert: i'll back for next 2h and we talk about resolution, ok?
17:56 < Wombert> hmm
17:56 < Wombert> okay
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19:03 < splatch_> Wombert: i'm back
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19:24 < splatch_> Wombert: pong :)
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19:25 < Wombert> splatch_: very busy atm, sorry
19:25 < splatch_> Wombert: ok, no problem
19:28 < ttj> I'm very busy and important...
19:38 < Wombert> ttj: nope, just in ze office since 12 hours :p
19:38 < Wombert> and counting
19:38 < ttj> Haha, ouch. :P
19:38 < ttj> Suggestion: get a pint. :D
19:38 < Wombert> thank you
19:39 < Wombert> excellent bavarian beer waiting in the fridge in the apartment
19:39 < ttj> I only have a bottle of red wine and I'm not sure I want to let the genie of the bottle out.
19:43 < _cheerios> ttj is not stocking up before 15% added taxes hit prices?
19:44 < ttj> Oh?
20:13 < Wombert> don't get it either
20:19 < _cheerios> alcohol tax is going to increase 10-15% in Finland cuz everyone's shitfaced all the time
20:20 < Wombert> lawl
20:21 < Wombert> aaaaah now I get the sentence
20:22 < ttj> WTF?
20:22 < ttj> I'm only shitfaced four nights out of the five during the week.
20:23 < ttj> _cheerios: What's up with Estonia? Will they keep the tax levels at the same level as now?
20:23 < _cheerios> I'm sure they'll welcome new customers open armed.
20:24 < ttj> :P
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20:45 < splatch_> Wombert: i do some work with xml schemas, and i've correct versions (for me)
20:50 < Wombert> splatch_: cool
21:09 < splatch_> Wombert: huh, that isn't end of my schema fight
21:10 < splatch_> now, i must define root element in all .xsd files
21:12  * splatch_ kicks JAXB
21:13 < splatch_> Wombert: do we can create 'configurations' element in all schemas?
21:14 < Wombert> splatch_: right now, that's in default_tags.xsd
21:14 < Wombert> it's a little hacky, I know
21:14 < Wombert> but saves a lot of copy and pasting
21:17 < splatch_> Wombert: yes, and this hack hacks also JAXB :-)
21:18 < Wombert> I know
21:18 < Wombert> had problems with it myself at some point
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06:43 < _cheerios> huomenta
06:45 < v-dogg> huomenta
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07:30 < Arme[N]> huomenta
07:30 < RossC0> huomenta!
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07:58 < SunboX> hi, how do i forward to another action?
07:58 < SunboX> i mean
07:59 < SunboX> if i call my logout action i want to forwart to login
07:59 < SunboX> -t +d
08:12 < v-dogg> in most cases you will want to do a http redirect
08:12 < v-dogg> and that's done in the view $this->getResponse()->setRedirect($url);
08:15 < v-dogg> to forward you would return an execution container from the view::execute*
08:16 < v-dogg> return $this->createForwardContainer('Module', 'Action', something else here perhaps... )
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08:53 < v-dogg> huomenta Wombs
08:59 < Wombert> hi v-dogg 
08:59 < Wombert> 'sup
09:01 < v-dogg> just mailed my registration form and student card (scanned) to the conference organizer
09:02  * Wombert hugs v-dogg 
09:03 < v-dogg> and now I'm going to take a promenade with my girls
09:03 < v-dogg> all three of them :)
09:03 < Wombert> heh
09:03 < Wombert> three? oO
09:03 < Wombert> ah ze dog :>
09:03 < v-dogg> yup :)
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09:55 < RossC0> how'd I generate the current url ?
09:55 < RossC0> so I can add an id #
09:55 < RossC0> ah gen(null)
09:55 < RossC0> :D
09:56 < CIA-35> david * r2052 /branches/0.11/src/exception/templates/shiny.php: check existance of "file" index in trace array
10:05 < RossC0> need advice!
10:05 < RossC0> :D
10:06 < RossC0> I want to have some methods that formats the date - i.e. 30th July 2007, 1st Dec 2009, 1 day ago, 15 mins ago
10:06 < RossC0> where should I put them?
10:07 < RossC0> I would Ideally not like to have them in a model that I have to initiate each time in the view - or should I just do that in the base view?
10:07 < CIA-35> david * r2053 /branches/0.11/src/renderer/AgaviRenderer.class.php: Made AgaviRenderer an AgaviParameterHolder, closes #553
10:09 < RossC0> if so is there a way I can have direct access to the var rather than via $t['html_helper']; ?
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10:12 < Wombert> RossC0: add it to the TM?
10:12 < Wombert> maybe
10:13 < Wombert> I mean, date formatting is already in there
10:13 < Wombert> timespan formatting you can add yourself then
10:15 < RossC0> I dont use TM
10:15 < RossC0> so to add it wouldn't that increase overhead?
10:15 < RossC0> also theres other things like a pluralisation helper
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10:58 < Wombert> http://www.ohloh.net/forums/8/topics/385
10:58 < Wombert> RossC0: hmmm
11:00 < kaos|work> cool
11:02 < RossC0> Wombert: hmmmmmmm
11:02 < RossC0> :D
11:02 < RossC0> ?
11:07 < RossC0> what you hmm'ing wombert?
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11:26 < kaos|work> RossC0: such a feature was/is already planned
11:27 < kaos|work> and it would have went into the tm
11:27 < kaos|work> *g*
11:27 < kaos|work> the problem is that you need to localise that stuff
11:27 < kaos|work> and the ldml (at least not the 1.4 version) didn't have any translations for these things
11:33 < RossC0> ah ok
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14:05 < MikeSeth> http://www.ohloh.net/forums/8/topics/385
14:05 < MikeSeth> haha pwnd
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15:55 < splatch_> Wombert: ping
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15:59 < Wombert> feedback plz
16:00 < Wombert> ezc renderer
16:00 < Wombert> will get some default blocks and functions
16:00 < Wombert> such as _
16:00 < Wombert> _n
16:00 < Wombert> _d
16:00 < Wombert> _c
16:00 < Wombert>  how should the routing gen function be called
16:00 < Wombert> gen?
16:00 < Wombert> rgen?
16:00 < Wombert> route?
16:01 < splatch_> route is most clear
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16:02 < MikeSeth> eeee
16:02 < MikeSeth> what?
16:02 < MikeSeth> those are translator methods
16:02 < MikeSeth> no?
16:11 < _cheerios> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6927434.stm feels like pages of some history book
16:11 < _cheerios> (except now the public has mobile phones)
16:33 < Wombert>  yes MikeSeth 
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16:51 < Arme[N]> _cheerios: yeah, sadly
16:52 < splatch> Wombert: i've XML schema who working with JAXB
16:52 < splatch> http://phpfi.com/253966
16:53 < Wombert> so all files need new xmlns dclarations, right?
16:53 < Wombert> autoload.xml needs /autoload and so on?
16:53 < splatch> yes
16:54 < splatch> and extended "configuration"
16:54 < Wombert> then we can't do it :(
16:54 < splatch> oops - configurations
16:54 < splatch> Wombert: why we can't?
16:54 < Wombert> that's a BC break
16:55 < splatch> breaking change?
16:55 < Wombert> backwards compatibility :)
16:55 < Wombert> people would have to update their xml configs
16:55 < Wombert> we can't do that :/
16:56 < Wombert> we promised that there wouldn't be any more breaks
16:56 < splatch> Wombert: is it possible in next versions?
16:58 < Wombert> nope
16:58 < Wombert> in 2.0
16:58 < Wombert> not before
16:58 < Wombert> but
16:58 < Wombert> couldn't you _add_ this stuff to the current schemas?
16:58 < Wombert> you could, right?
16:58 < Wombert> we keep the old definitions and also add these new ones
16:59 < Wombert> and then I can switch the builders to generate files with the new namespcaes
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17:51 < splatch> Wombert: i'll work with modified schemas
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20:12 < _cheerios> there was Behaviour for mootools, digitarald ?
20:12 < _cheerios> i thought there was a copy on agileweb... but guess i forgot where i spotted the article
20:12 < digitarald> MooSelectors
20:13 < digitarald> http://agileweb.org/2007/2/25/introducing-mooselectors
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20:25 < _cheerios> thanks! all working in mooworld now too.
20:27 < _cheerios> + nice ::click addition, ic
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20:53 < digitarald> i think with 1.2 we can refactor MooSelectors
20:57 < Wombert> oooh
20:57 < Wombert> dude :>
20:57 < Wombert> I just made Longs work over SOAP with PHP
20:58 < Wombert> ace
20:58 < Wombert> some hackery, but it works works works
20:58 < Wombert> that means I deserve to go home
20:58 < Wombert> and have a beer
20:58 < Wombert> laters my friends
20:58  * Wombert hugs everyone
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21:05 < Arme[N]> :)
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23:20 < Whisller> Hi
23:20 < Whisller> What that error means "Too many execution runs have been detected for this Context."
23:22 < Whisller> Is someone here :>
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00:35 < Wombert> Whisller: slot recursion?
00:37 < Wombert> do you have a setupHtml?
00:37 < Wombert> don'tload the default layout if $this->container->getParameter('is_slot') there
00:38 < Whisller> Wombert: I have only one slot content.
00:39 < Whisller> and $this->setupHtml($rd, 'administration-master');
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00:39 < Whisller> But now it works 
00:40 < Wombert> yes but
00:41 < Wombert> your sloat also calls setuphtml
00:41 < Wombert> slot
00:41 < Wombert> and that loads the default layout
00:41 < Wombert> which again calls the slot
00:41 < Wombert> which then calls setuphtml
00:41 < Wombert> which loads the default layout
00:41 < Wombert> which then again calls the slot
00:41 < Wombert> and so on
00:41 < Wombert> easiest way is
00:42 < Wombert> public funciton setupHtml(ARDH $rd, $layoutName = null) {
00:42 < Wombert>   if($this->container->getParameter('is_slot') && $layoutName === null) {
00:42 < Wombert>     $layoutName = 'slot';
00:42 < Whisller> ohh
00:42 < Whisller> ok
00:47 < Whisller> thanks :)
00:48 < impl> Wombert: can we add class ARDH extends AgaviRequestDataHolder { } ? :P
00:50 < Wombert> eh?
00:50 < Wombert> noo!
00:50 < Wombert> :>
00:51 < impl> I was kidding anyway ;p
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02:21 < impl> How do I specify multiple routes in gen() again? for example to have a cut route to a specific output type
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05:51 < v-dogg> huomenta
05:51 < v-dogg> impl: gen('foo+print')
05:51 < impl> er, yeah, figured that out eventually :) thanks
05:52 < v-dogg> no problem
05:52 < v-dogg> we aim to please :)
05:52 < impl> Another question though, suppose I have some ?blah=blah&etc=more stuff in my URL, how can I get the routing to pass that on to a new route?
05:52 < impl> (using gen())
05:53 < v-dogg> hmm.. don't know really
05:54 < impl> I think I'll just append it to the end of the route manually then
05:54 < impl> routing->getUriQuery or something
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07:19 < RossC0> huomenta!
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07:24 < _cheerios> HUOMENTA!
07:25 < RossC0> HUOMENTA!
07:25 < _cheerios> :)
07:26 < _cheerios> found this great fast rock tune by Vanderveen - Weekend Full Of Weekends http://www.garageband.com/song?%7Cpe1%7CS8LTM0LdsaSkZVK3YG4 while checking out anywhere.fm (down currently)
07:27 < _cheerios> plus got a call in the morning that my new apartment application has been "approved", so i'll be moving places end of month \o/
07:27 < RossC0> woot!
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08:17 < SunboX> hi is there a way to get the actual route in an template?
08:17 < SunboX> like $ro->gen(route)
08:17 < SunboX> but as get
08:18 < SunboX> i want to mark the actual menu item
08:18 < SunboX> my routes are like user.new, user.list
08:18 < SunboX> i want to know if actual view is 'user'
08:19 < _cheerios> 		$routes = $this->getContext()->getRequest()->getAttribute('matched_routes', 'org.agavi.routing');		
08:19 < _cheerios> 		$route = array_pop($routes); // top bucket has our current route
08:20 < SunboX> nice! thx! :o)
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09:03 < _cheerios> what do i need to set for the classes propel builds (/build/classes) to be included by agavi?
09:04 < _cheerios> or as in propel finds them when propel is ignited
09:06 < _cheerios> so far i've added a set_include_path(), but was there another way?
09:08 < SunboX> autoload.xml
09:09 < SunboX> <autoload name="Propel">%core.agavi_dir%/database/AgaviPropelAutoload.php</autoload>
09:09 < SunboX>    <autoload name="BaseObject">propel/om/BaseObject.php</autoload>
09:09 < SunboX>    <autoload name="Persistent">propel/om/Persistent.php</autoload>
09:09 < SunboX>    <autoload name="BasePeer">propel/util/BasePeer.php</autoload>
09:09 < SunboX>    <autoload name="Criteria">propel/util/Criteria.php</autoload>
09:09 < SunboX>    <autoload name="User">%core.lib_dir%/propel/oe3/User.php</autoload>
09:12 < SunboX> how do i forward to another action?
09:12 < SunboX> like in output action, i want to forward to input
09:12 < SunboX> ufff
09:12 < SunboX> not uotput
09:12 < SunboX> logout i mean
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09:13 < _cheerios> like a complete new http request
09:13 < _cheerios> ?
09:14 < SunboX> hm, not really... i want to set an attribut and show the login view
09:14 < SunboX> hm, i think i've copy the form from login in logout template
09:15 < SunboX> should be the "cleanest" way
09:15 < _cheerios> i've not done action->action myself. you can skip to any view using the return('module','action') syntax, but that's probably not you want.
09:16 < _cheerios> return array(x,y); even
09:16 < SunboX> maybe this can help
09:16 < SunboX> thx
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09:19 < SunboX> he, it works!
09:19 < SunboX> thx a lot
09:19 < SunboX> return array('Default', 'LoginInput');
09:20 < Wombert> v-dogg: http://hypediss.com/system/post/image/7611/2960.jpg?1185573053
09:21 < Wombert> mmmh SunboX 
09:21 < Wombert> what are you doing there exactly
09:22 < RossC0> Huomenta Wombert!
09:22 < _cheerios> heh @ paperclip
09:23 < Wombert> hai RossC0 
09:23 < Wombert> 'sup
09:24 < RossC0> coming to the end / beginning of the project - internal and closed releases are coming soon! :D
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09:25 < RossC0> woot
09:26 < RossC0> but in the middle of restyling the site - boooorrrrring
09:26 < RossC0> so going slightly insane :-S
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09:29 < _cheerios> styling + usability = a time black hole
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09:40 < SunboX> hm, think i found a bug in agavi, don't know if its really one
09:40 < SunboX> i want to load login view in logout action
09:40 < SunboX> return array('Default', 'LoginInput');
09:41 < SunboX> all works
09:41 < SunboX> but when i trie to login, loginaction will not be called
09:41 < SunboX> the page will be reloaded without error
09:41 < SunboX> then i can login
09:42 < SunboX> why does this happen?
09:43 < SunboX> url is app/login/logout ... witch shows login form with action="app/login" ... butt LoginAction is not called at submit
09:45 < SunboX> what happens befor the action will be called?
09:46 < SunboX> why does the page reload?
09:47 < SunboX> ahh
09:47 < SunboX> getDefaultViewName() will be called
09:48 < SunboX> not executeWrite()
09:49 < Wombert> anyway
09:49 < Wombert> you shouldn't show the login view in the action
09:49 < Wombert> that's behavior you're adding there, it belongs in the view
09:49 < Wombert> return a forward from your logout success view
09:50 < SunboX> yes, seems the best way
09:50 < SunboX> but i wonder why execute is called and not executeWrite
09:51 < SunboX> when i submit the form
09:51 < codecop> modify_comment/comment_1 am i wrong? ^/modify_comment(/comment_(comment_id:\d+))?$
09:51 < codecop> i got 404
09:51 < Wombert> http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sc_fe_c_1_3435361_1/104-9066604-5529567?ie=UTF8&node=342430011&no=3435361
09:52 < Wombert> that doesn't work, codecop 
09:52 < Wombert> why do you want the id to be optional?
09:53 < Wombert> ^/modify_comment(/comment:{id:\d+})?$
09:53 < Wombert> that works
09:53 < Wombert> oh
09:53 < Wombert> ^/modify_comment(/comment_:{comment_id:\d+})?$
09:53 < Wombert> and /comment_ is a prefix then
09:56 < codecop> hm that dont work: modify_comment/comment_222 | ^/modify_comment(/comment_:{comment_id:\d+})?$
09:57 < codecop> optional becouse of javascript, he add's ending of route
09:58 < codecop> maybe 2snd route will help
09:58 < codecop> ;)
10:01 < Wombert> I'd go with comments/58123/edit etc anyway
10:01 < Wombert> bbl
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10:05 < SunboX> hm, same problem if i do a redirect in logout view
10:05 < SunboX> $this->getResponse()->setRedirect('login');
10:05 < SunboX> does work
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10:06 < SunboX> but when i submit the form, executeWrite from LoginAction will not be called
10:06 < _cheerios> ain't no post if don't write
10:07 < Whisller> hi
10:07 < _cheerios> lo
10:09 < SunboX> *lol
10:09 < SunboX> this works
10:09 < SunboX> $this->getResponse()->setRedirect('.');
10:09 < SunboX> if i direct redirect to login it doesnt
10:10 < v-dogg_> you must give it an url
10:10 < v-dogg_> http://mydomain.com/foo/bar/
10:11 < v-dogg_> (it will work without the domain part too, because agavi detects if it isn't there and will add it automatically)
10:11 < SunboX> ah, ok
10:11 < Whisller> hmm I don't remember where in options in FF can I find cookies ;)
10:11 < SunboX> but this will not fix the problem, i think
10:11 < Whisller> I have
10:12 < SunboX> it works now
10:12 < SunboX> so its ok
10:12 < SunboX> dont have time to find out, why i does not work when redirect directly to login form
10:53 < _cheerios> last line being so negative.
10:53 < _cheerios> i dont like it
10:53 < _cheerios> typing something here instead
10:53 < _cheerios> ah :D
11:06  * RossC0 passes _cheerios a brown paper bag to breath into - "its alright everyone _cheerios is just having an episode - it'll be over soon" :D
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11:44 < Wombert> codecop: you have a : in there
11:44 < Wombert> your pattern is wrong
11:44 < codecop> m?
11:45 < Wombert> ^/modify_comment(/comment_:{comment_id:\d+})?$
11:45 < Wombert> wrong
11:45 < Wombert> ^/modify_comment(/comment_{comment_id:\d+})?$
11:45 < Wombert> correct
11:46 < codecop> let see
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11:54 < codecop> url is calling action but i get 0 with $rd->getParameter('comment_id')
11:54 < codecop> when it is 1
11:55 < codecop> full regex ^/modify_comment(/comment_{comment_id:\d+}/{text:[\S\s]+})?$
11:55 < codecop> http://www.site.lt2/lt/panel/photos/modify_comment/comment_1/test
11:56 < codecop> i resolved it with 2 routes
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12:18 < Wombert> no, codecop 
12:18 < Wombert> the syntax for naming arguments in a pattern is
12:18 < Wombert> (name:pattern)
12:18 < Wombert> you can also do (prefix{name:pattern}postfix)
12:21 < Wombert> but that's only useful if the pattern should be optional
12:21 < Wombert> for instance
12:22 < Wombert> pattern="^/products/list/(category:\d+)(/{page:\d+))?$"
12:22 < Wombert> because if you only make the page optional
12:22 < Wombert> the / would still have to be there
12:22 < Wombert> and you should not send text in GET, codecop 
12:22 < Wombert> GET is an idempotent and a safe action according to the HTTP spec
12:22 < Wombert> never do /items/123/delete links or anything
12:28 < codecop> Wombert, i used http://www.yvoschaap.com/index.php/weblog/ajax_inline_instant_update_text_20 feuture and there text is sending there in GET request :/
12:28 < codecop> ofcause i can modify it to POST
12:29 < Wombert> it sends all that via GET?
12:29 < Wombert> omh
12:29 < codecop> english ;)
12:29 < Wombert> omg
12:29 < codecop> mhm
12:29 < codecop> just generates links
12:36 < SunboX> why should i never do /item/123/delete ?
12:36 < SunboX> i've learned it so from v-doggs cms
12:37 < codecop> becouse google can go in that link if it is not secure and delete everything :)
12:37 < SunboX> ah, thats ok... it is secure :D
12:38 < SunboX> thought there are other reasons
12:39 < codecop> maybe they are ;)
12:39 < Whisller> "Too many execution runs have been detected for this Context."
12:40 < Whisller> ehh
12:40 < Whisller> I still have this error
12:41 < Whisller> I remove cookie and works ; p
12:44 < RossC0> Wombert: I do  /items/123/delete
12:44 < RossC0> but it asks you to confirm :D
12:44 < RossC0> o:-)
12:44 < RossC0> which does ze post!
12:45 < Wombert> a post is okay
12:45 < Wombert> but not a get
12:45 < Wombert> because
12:45 < Wombert> you install a search engine or so and tadaaaa
12:45 < Wombert> :
12:45 < Wombert> >
12:48 < RossC0> I know I thought I'd flirt with controversy before coming back to the fold!
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13:26 < RossC0> http://doctrine.pengus.net/doctrine/manual/new/?chapter=class-templates
13:26 < RossC0> for the doctrine folk
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14:02 < Wombert> guys
14:02 < Wombert> question again
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14:02 < SunboX> does anyone know how to disable auto-html-code-formatting in eclipse?
14:03 < Wombert> how should we call the default function/block for the ez components renderer that gneerates a route
14:03 < Wombert> gen?
14:03 < Wombert> rgen?
14:03 < Wombert> route?
14:03 < Wombert> I think route would be nice
14:03 < RossC0> route
14:03 < SunboX> route
14:03 < Wombert> k
14:27 < CIA-11> david * r2054 /branches/0.11/src/translation/AgaviTranslationManager.class.php: doc fixes
14:40 < CIA-11> david * r2055 /branches/0.11/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): AgaviEzctemplateRenderer, closes #326. Ships with blocks and functions "_", "__", "_c", "_d", "_n" and "route", plus function "call" that allows calling of arbitrary methods (use PHP array callback notation). Enjoy.
14:41 < Wombert> test this, guys!
14:41 < Wombert> ezc template is really nice
14:41 < Wombert> much better than smarty, and dare I say, I think I like it over PHP templates as well
14:42 < SunboX> are there some docs/demos
14:42 < SunboX> ?
14:52 < Wombert> ?
14:53 < Wombert> just set it as your renderer in output_types.xml and done :)
14:53 < Wombert> of course you need to init ez components in app/config.php before and such
14:53 < SunboX> ah ok :D
14:53 < Wombert> autobahn now
14:53 < Wombert> home to munich
14:53 < Wombert> sixt didn't have any cars so I had to take an Audi TT
14:53 < Wombert> bummer
14:53 < Wombert> :>
14:53 < Wombert> laters
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16:34 < v-dogg_> 15:36 < SunboX> why should i never do /item/123/delete ?
16:34 < v-dogg_> 15:36 < SunboX> i've learned it so from v-doggs cms
16:34 < v-dogg_> bah, of course it asks you to confirm (POST) before deleting anything :)
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16:57 < RossC0> Have a good weekend all!
16:59 < v-dogg> we will (in Riga :)
16:59 < v-dogg> you too 
17:00 < RossC0> :D
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17:49 < _cheerios> woow00
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17:54 < _cheerios> lo trophaeum 
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18:11 < Whisller> Are someone of you writing javascript scripts with mootools?
18:14 < _cheerios> i was converted to the mooligion by that evil digitarald guy, like many sheep on this channel
18:16 < Whisller> I have a little problem.
18:16 < Whisller>  I have page http://dev.whisnet.pl/CDPROJEKT_1185857708/ and there I have a list. And when I'm moving element from up to down it return two others ID's (id's what they really have) but when I want move from down to up it write this same id's :/ alert("TO = "+this.id+" FROM = "+oEl.id); Example: "Jeden" to "Trzy" == 72,70 but "Trzy" to "Jeden" == 72,72
18:17 < Whisller> And I don't know what I must edit to fix id...blach I don't understand that error 
18:20 < _cheerios> are you trying to update them live?
18:21 < Whisller> Yes. But it I don't know why return this same ID's when I want move from down to up
18:21 < Whisller> *wuthout it
18:22 < Whisller> But when I move from up top to down it works
18:24 < Whisller> Do you see what I'm talking about :>
18:24 < _cheerios> seems like a very broken implementation, ye
18:24 < Whisller> Really strange
18:25 < Whisller> What can be broken there :P So if from top to down is working, but from down to top not ;p 
18:29 < Whisller> ehh :/
18:33 < Whisller> it isn't script is a bitch
18:33 < Whisller> *it's
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18:40 < _cheerios> can the draggable be the droppable?
18:44 < _cheerios> $$('li #tree.ul').each(function(oEl){
18:44 < _cheerios> 												new Drag.Move(oEl,{
18:44 < _cheerios> 													droppables: $$('li #tree.ul')
18:44 < _cheerios> 												});
18:44 < _cheerios> 											});
18:44 < _cheerios> try changing those oEl's to anything else
18:44 < Whisller> _cheerios: but as you can see when you want move element from top ("Jeden" too "Trzy") it return two others ID's
18:44 < _cheerios> as they shouldnt affect the outcome
18:44 < _cheerios> but might interfere
18:44 < Whisller> But when you want move grom Trzy too Jeden it return two this same ID's
18:47 < Whisller> :)
18:51 < Whisller> Do you can see it?
18:53 < Whisller> Heh it's strange for me really strange
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20:14 < Wombert> oooooh bullcrap
20:14 < Wombert> I left both power adapters in cologne
20:14 < Wombert> and I fly on business trip / vacation on sunday
20:15 < Wombert> and gravis is moving to a new store which opens.... tadaa....monday
20:15 < Wombert> which means there's no way they'll have old G4 PowerBook adapters instock
20:15 < Wombert> Z
20:15 < Wombert> O
20:15 < Wombert> M
20:15 < Wombert> G
20:26 < CIA-11> david * r2056 /branches/0.11/src/renderer/ezctemplate/ (2 files): fixed incorrect route() function declaration, added default cases to switch statements
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20:48 < _cheerios> buy a spare-spare adapter... 
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06:18 < _cheerios> huomentaa!!!
06:19 < _cheerios> seems i'm early
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06:57 < v-dogg> huomenta
06:57 < v-dogg> early bird catches the bird flu
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09:02 < Whisller> hi
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13:33 < _cheerios> http://www.pantherhouse.com/newshelton/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/monkeypeach.jpg << text caption below the photo on the right... ;)
13:35 < _cheerios> tasty http://www.pantherhouse.com/newshelton/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/octopussy1272.jpg
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13:55 < Whisller> Are you know where is digitarald?
13:58 < Whisller> *where digitarald is
14:25 < _cheerios> still having the JS problem?
14:28 < Whisller> NO I fix it, something wrog was in dropabbles  - i done something wroge ;)
14:28 < Whisller> *wrong
14:31 < _cheerios> what fixed it?
14:32 < Whisller> Change name of dropabble div. http://dev.whisnet.pl/CDPROJEKT_1185857708/
14:32 < Whisller> Because I set wrong name.
14:35 < _cheerios> looks a lot different
14:35 < Whisller> I change many things, add comments. Rewrite some code.
14:36 < Whisller> But still it not that what I want this should look.
14:39 < _cheerios> don't spend too much on a single piece of code :)
14:40 < Whisller> Now I'm writing little files manager, and I want add some ajax features ;) I must to learn JS, I don't know it is good idea ;)
14:42 < Whisller> But hmm 3 days ago I was in interview, and one guy which I was toolking said JS is important if I want get job in his company. So I'm learning. 
14:46 < _cheerios> if you're a web dev, you need to know JS for sure
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16:11 < Whisller> I have one question. I have some action, and user don't have a credentials to execute it. And when I'm doing request to this action with ajax how I can show user "You dont have credentials to view it". Maybe can I set other view for it? Then I will be check response if (resposne == 'credentials-false'). What you think?
16:17 < _cheerios> good question, as the user gets redirected to secureaction by default. you can set your own execute's, which check for such error (somehow) and then act accordingly for the response.
16:17 < _cheerios> json will likely be your best friend
16:18 < Whisller> But if I have set dsystem_action name="secure" ?
16:18 < Whisller> And user is redirecting to this action
16:18 < Whisller> Then I cant check it
16:20 < Whisller> Any ideas :>
16:20 < _cheerios> dunno. can't you just make the html page which has the ajax call secure?
16:21 < _cheerios> sounds like someone doing something they shouldnt have access to anyhow (in their state)
16:21 < _cheerios> --->jog
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16:21 < Whisller> Hmm 
16:22 < Whisller> Can I check credentials in getCredentials? And then return View or error?
16:24 < Whisller> If it will be possible then I will be check credentials in action and set view for it .. it will be good :>
16:49 < Whisller> Hmm maybe if (response != 'has_credentials') then display information about credentials
16:49 < Whisller> I must think about it
16:59 < _cheerios> awww... having eaten sausages earlier in the day killed me :/
17:00 < Whisller> :)
17:01 < Whisller> Today is so quiet here
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17:22 < _cheerios> can't wait to see Assembly'07 productions
17:26 < Whisller> What is it?
17:26 < _cheerios> http://www.assembly.org/summer07/
17:27 < _cheerios> programming/gaming event
17:28 < Whisller> I see
17:29 < Whisller> It is something like symposium and place where people can playing?
17:34 < _cheerios> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/asmsummer07/
18:40 < _cheerios> wtf... mootools serializes sortables using its own internal id's, not what i specified o_O I hope the existing ones can be held intact somehow
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19:00 < _cheerios> google ftw. creator it had example code on his page. then just prototype and voila \o/
19:00 < _cheerios> s/it/of it
19:08 < _cheerios> great... jEdit doesn't want to start
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20:12 < CIA-11> david * r2057 /branches/0.11/CHANGELOG: GOLEGNAHC
21:13 < _cheerios> ~sleepy~
21:14 < ttj> Yep.
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22:10 < Whisller> evening
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06:50 < _cheerios> huomenta!
07:13 < _cheerios> ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2007/assembly07/
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07:40 < _cheerios> HUK U BABO CHOBO KEKEKEKE ^^
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08:13 < _cheerios> bleh. i need a better gpu for watching the demos :|
09:15 < ttj> Fortunately all that Assembly-nonsense will end today.
09:16 < _cheerios> KEKEKE
09:16 < ttj> Right.
09:17 < _cheerios> KEKEKE is Korean for "hahaha."
09:17 < _cheerios> this probably didn't help:
09:17 < _cheerios> Korean keyboards have a key that generates 'ke'. Someone discovered that this annoys the hell out of westerners, and due to South Korean Starcraft Zergrush skills, it's associated with Koreans online. Usually an expression of humor.
09:18 < ttj> Ah.
09:18 < ttj> Are you also one of those anime-wankers? ;P
09:19 < _cheerios> Such malice towards people!
09:20 < ttj> Try waking up with a hangover and have three CS nerds sit in front of a laptop, staring at some Japanese bread anime with the volume at full level. :P
09:20 < _cheerios> lol!
09:21 < _cheerios> i hear that anime is pretty good. haven't seen it.
09:21 < ttj> So I'm sorry if I'm not that receptive towards any sort of anime.
09:21 < _cheerios> it takes SKILL to make a show about MAKING BREAD be exciting
09:22 < ttj> I saw that Totoro movie once. Made me want to start doing hard drugs afterwards.
09:26 < _cheerios> watching anime expands the mind ;)
09:27 < _cheerios> haven't seen totoro. seems to have a cute bunny innit.
09:28 < ttj> Can't remember. There was a cat bus with like 20 legs and then that oval-shaped furry thing with big teeth and an umbrella and which could fly while standing on top of a spinning... well... top.
09:30 < ttj> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/1totoro.jpg <-- That guy!
09:34 < _cheerios> the cute bunny :)
09:34 < ttj> It's not a bunny.
09:34 < ttj> It has big... TEETH!
09:36 < _cheerios> yes :)
09:37 < ttj> Oh, and it can grow weed.
09:38 < _cheerios> you should watch some really crazy anime sometimes :D
09:38 < ttj> I don't think that'd be a very good idea. :D
09:38 < _cheerios> if there's room around the laptop.
10:02 < _cheerios> some good music in the asm07 freestyle compo
10:10 < ttj> Some good music in my Last.fm My Loved Tracks radio.
10:10 < ttj> Underworld - Pearls Girl
10:59 < _cheerios> foppa - Hetki Hulluutta (guitar & man), Coloneil feat. Reetta - Kuvittele Maailma (ballad-pop?), Byproduct - Overload (technoish-90s-yeah!), Kim Wirtanen - Closer to God (instrumental/ambient), Castor - Come SHow me Love (like that some movie with female lead singing in a bar...), Mörkö - Ectoplasm (electronic), ...
10:59 < _cheerios> a lot of different sounds in these freecompo beats
11:01 < ttj> Haha, I love David Armand's dance interpretation of Natalie Imbruglia's Torn. :P
11:03 < _cheerios> i used to love Torn when it came out like in 97ish
11:03 < ttj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dxf6keoYV0
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11:16 < _cheerios> it got good when Nat joined in. ok piece :)
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11:23 < _cheerios> youtube,downtube? gah.
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11:44 < _cheerios> refactoring takes foooooooreeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerr...
11:47 < _cheerios> someone wouldnt have a script that creates dom from a nestedset?
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11:55 < Whisller> hi
12:14 < _cheerios> hello
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13:04 < _cheerios> how can i have the routing not add a <default for="x"/> into the generated url?
13:04 < _cheerios> (i just want the routing to use it, not display it)
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13:05 < Whisller> Sorry but I don't understand you idea :D
13:06 < Whisller> *your
13:07 < _cheerios> eg. /user/id(/)?(someVar:[])
13:07 < _cheerios> someVar has a default of "Foo"
13:08 < _cheerios> but i don't need it added to the url necessary, which shows /user/id/foo, by use of defaults
13:11 < Whisller> hmm
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13:31 < _cheerios> 29C inside :/
13:35 < Whisller> I have 24, cold :/
13:41 < _cheerios> pfft, that's about perfect
13:42 < _cheerios> how can i find unused variables/functions in PHP code?
14:00 < Whisller> eclipse doesn't have it?
14:01 < Whisller> but for variables only...but I'm not sure
14:02 < Whisller> or that was only for java...I don't remember
14:03 < _cheerios> i don't use eclipse. im searching for some tool that could provide this, as im sure my code has some unused stuff by now
14:03 < Whisller> Are you using last.fm?
14:13 < _cheerios> nope
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14:44 < _cheerios> can I move from one action to another somehow? I'd want to choose a view from another action when returning from the action
14:45 < _cheerios> oh, it worked :)
14:45 < _cheerios> just needed the action to start with the same prefix
14:57 < Whisller> Are we here alone? ;p
15:01 < _cheerios> it's weekend
15:01 < _cheerios> nobody should be here
15:02 < Whisller> So we are crazy ;p
15:02 < _cheerios> probably just poorer than the erst
15:02 < Whisller> Sorry don;t understand that phrase
15:05 < _cheerios> poor ppl need to work hard, longer days
15:05 < Whisller> ahh
15:05 < Whisller> ok :)
15:05 < Whisller> http://www.phpguru.org/#100
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15:17 < _cheerios> humho... IE... fook u
15:20 < _cheerios> hard to debug when the browser crashes
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15:57 < _cheerios> ttj: got any hard drugs left?
16:09 < _cheerios> *phew* IE behaving now.
16:23 < ttj> _cheerios: Sorry, don't do those. :-/
16:23 < ttj> I just have some pain killers with red triangles.
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16:40 < _cheerios> jog-->
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17:22 < _cheerios> ahhh
17:25 < splatch> he;;p
17:26 < splatch> hello
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17:28 < juro_> hi
17:28 < _cheerios> yo
17:29 < juro_> can anyone tell me how agavi interfaces with a database?
17:30 < _cheerios> are you getting started or having problems?
17:30 < splatch> http://img.wklej.org/v.php?id=61648agavi%20module%20editor.PNG
17:30 < juro_> getting started - checking out the framework - and read something about propel ...
17:31 < _cheerios> ./src/database has connectors, juro_ 
17:31 < juro_> ok, so does agavi use propel, doctrine or what?
17:32 < _cheerios> setup your confing in settings + database.xml, then just $db = $this->getContext()->getDatabaseConnection();
17:32 < _cheerios> it uses whatever you want it to use
17:32 < juro_> ok
17:32 < _cheerios> if youre looking at propel, looking at v-dogg's cms probably will help
17:33 < juro_> well I just hope it doesn't use propel ...
17:33 < _cheerios> http://veikko.fi/temp/cms.zip
17:33 < _cheerios> that one has propel samples
17:33 < _cheerios> splatch, hmmm :)
17:35 < _cheerios> South Africa? cool
17:36 < splatch> i gonna to write some "ide" for agavi
17:36 < splatch> but i need ideas and time :)
17:36 < juro_> :) I am currently using symfony but just want to check the other frameworks
17:36 < _cheerios> http://youtube.com/watch?v=z77Fspd5hlg << listen to some Double Nature to get pumped up about "ide"'s ;)
17:36 < Whisller> symfony, it has helpers for everything ;p
17:37 < Whisller> hi splatch
17:37 < splatch> hi Whisller 
17:37 < juro_> Whisller, true. but a framework should 'help' as often as possible
17:37 < Whisller> and agavi does it ;p
17:38 < splatch> _cheerios: great music :)
17:38 < _cheerios> kicks ass \o/
17:38 < splatch> yeah, do you heard korpiklani?
17:38 < _cheerios> unknown to me
17:39 < juro_> Whisller, so how do I get agavi to create a model from an existing database?
17:40 < _cheerios> agavi doesnt do db related stuff, thats upto your orm of choice
17:40 < splatch> _cheerios: http://www.lastfm.pl/music/Korpiklaani/+wiki
17:40 < juro_> ok
17:41 < Fastly> juro_: if you're using propel, read http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/wiki/Users/Documentation/1.3/HowTos/ExistingDatabases
17:41 < juro_> I don't want to use propel! (it is really crap and makes interfacing really slow!)
17:44 < splatch> juro_: so use PDO
17:44 < splatch> or Creole
17:44 < splatch> Agavi will give you everything what you want
17:44 < _cheerios> or whateverthehellyouwant ;)
17:44 < juro_> great now it isn't only about selecting the framework, now the orm needs selecting too ...
17:45 < splatch> juro_: why you don't want use symfony?
17:45 < _cheerios> probably doesn't have enough helpers!
17:46 < Whisller> hihihi
17:46 < juro_> I heard that agavi is much better - and I am not into the helpers ;)
17:46 < _cheerios> only cakephp+symfony bundle an orm with the framework, afaik
17:46 < _cheerios> so if you want that, better look in that direction
17:47 < juro_> ok
17:49 < splatch> _cheerios: listen Korpiklaani :)
17:50 < _cheerios> i left an im to a friend to get an opinion first ;)
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18:02 < splatch> _cheerios: folk + rock, good team :)
18:04 < _cheerios> got a reply, m8 knows them but doesnt like
18:04 < _cheerios> but he's in some dethmetal band himself, and i dont like the shit he plays :d
18:06 < _cheerios> hmm... 9pm... coffee or tea
18:11 < splatch> http://youtube.com/watch?v=v1PgiBpTtao
18:11 < splatch> that's great song :)
18:13 < _cheerios> Bad Religion :p
18:15 < splatch> yeah
18:15 < splatch> _cheerios: you like it?
18:15 < splatch> do you?
18:16 < _cheerios> it's ok. i used to listen to them... whenever they were big :)
18:16 < _cheerios> they've been dropping single hits throughout the years, rite?
18:17 < _cheerios> was more into offspring middle 90's, but who wasnt? :D
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18:20 < _cheerios> http://youtube.com/watch?v=UPxlenE-kic more upbeat :)
18:24 < splatch> does youtube down?
18:24 < _cheerios> could be. listening to a vid :D
18:24 < _cheerios> it was down earlier today
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19:44 < CIA-11> dominik * r2058 /branches/0.11/src/renderer/ezctemplate/AgaviIEzctemplateTemplate.interface.php: Removed final keyword from the methods in the interface ... this obviously doesn't work ;)
19:48 < _cheerios> 39 commits today and still a few hours left
19:48 < _cheerios> wb dominik
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20:36 < splatch> http://img.wklej.org/v.php?id=73403agavi%20module%20editor.PNG
20:36 < splatch> data readed from file :)
20:37 < _cheerios> you're going eclipse plugin writing nuts? :)
20:38 < splatch> yeah, i like Eclipse and love Agavi, that's small and ugle effect ;)
20:38 < splatch> *ugly
20:39 < splatch> i never write so bad code like today :D
20:40 < _cheerios> i wouldnt mind using Eclipse if it didnt feel like the screen crawls everytime i just type a few lines
20:40 < _cheerios> it's like enter.. enter (1 sec)... enter (1 sec)... AARGH.
20:40 < splatch> _cheerios: how many memory you have?
20:40 < _cheerios> 1G
20:41 < splatch> can't be!
20:41 < splatch> _cheerios: do you modified memory settings for eclipse?
20:41 < _cheerios> nope. just eclipse + pdt
20:41 < splatch> nah, two years ago i writed code on machine with 256MB of ram, next 512
20:42 < splatch> _cheerios: you can give more memory for eclipse
20:42 < trophaeum_> 1gig and eclipse dont mix well, i have to switch from firefox to opera on my workb ox when i use eclipse
20:43 < splatch> i've 2GB of RAM, so i use full featured Eclipse (maany plugins), Thunderbird and Firefox in the same time
20:43 < splatch> :)
20:43 < trophaeum_> splatch, ya, thats me at home too, and once i get a macbook pro and start taking it to work :)
20:43 < splatch> does anyone want write eclipse plugins? :)
20:44 < trophaeum_> HA! you say java, i say no thanks
20:44 < splatch> :D
20:44 < splatch> java isn't bad!
20:44 < splatch> my friends
20:44 < splatch> don't rate language by one tool :)
20:44 < _cheerios> i just switched to jEdit. blazing fast compared to Eclipse.
20:44 < _cheerios> just not all the bells n whistles, but fine for text editing
20:44 < splatch> for simple files i use gVim
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20:45 < trophaeum_> eclipse's code completion *drool* so much simpler when your using propel
20:46 < splatch> trophaeum_: youre talking about PDT
20:46 < splatch> PDT have very bad code
20:46 < splatch> without comments
20:46 < splatch> this code is clear only for authors
20:46 < trophaeum_> splatch, no surprise there, i used to use phpeclipse before it too, its still too good of an editing environment to give up for me
20:46 < splatch> new people who want contribute have to do really hard work
20:47 < splatch> i switched from php eclipse to pdt some time ago
20:47 < splatch> but i don't write many PHP code
20:47 < splatch> from this year i write only in java
20:48 < splatch> PDT is good, when you write, not when you want extend it :)
20:50 < splatch> http://phpfi.com/254596
20:50 < _cheerios> you're doing java webdev only, splatch ?
20:51 < splatch> _cheerios: not only - in previous year i write Swing application integrated with php by SOAP
20:51 < splatch> now i use J2EE
20:52 < splatch> webdev in Java is fine, but i use Struts and other old libraries
20:55 < _cheerios> yeah,im sure it gets the job done.. eventually
20:56 < splatch> java developers in poland get's more sallary than php developers :)
20:57 < _cheerios> that's everywhere
20:58 < _cheerios> + you're unemployed if you do PHP outside of states, pretty much :)
20:59 < _cheerios> midnight :| still can.. keep eyes open...
21:01 < splatch> next feature - graph with validator's xincludes :)
21:04 < _cheerios> i could use the processing power of java in my projects
21:05 < _cheerios> i'll bug you for stuff if i need to rewrite code in java :)
21:06 < splatch> _cheerios: ok, when you've some problem just write
21:06 < splatch> _cheerios: do you want my jabber id?
21:06 < _cheerios> you're here on irc, that's good enough
21:08 < splatch> _cheerios: yes, but i join irc only when i want write something about eclipse on #agavi :)
21:10 < _cheerios> pfft!
21:10 < _cheerios> i wont write java anytime soon, no worries
21:10 < splatch> hrhr 
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21:44 < Whisller> evening
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06:48 < _cheerios> huomenta!
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06:54 < luke`> huomenta!
06:56 < codecop> maybe someone knows why i got date from database like: 01/01/03, in database it is 2003-01-01, i use propel
07:03 < codecop> fixed: need propel.defaultDateFormat = %Y-%m-%d in build.properties
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07:20 < RossC0> Huomenta!
07:20 < _cheerios> huomenta RossC0 
07:23 < RossC0> whats up?
07:26 < _cheerios> uhh... another monday with me going thru notes on what to tackle next
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07:40 < RossC0> cool - well I've just read Whisllers mail to the list and replied !   Good deed for the day!
07:42 < _cheerios> hmm, a link to the archive on the topic might be good
07:42 < _cheerios> if it does start to get dailyish traffic
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07:43 < _cheerios> i always check the irc logs, but i never read the mailing list (beyond what i see fwd'd to my gmail account)
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07:47 < RossC0> it not a google group?
07:48 < _cheerios> whatwhat?
07:49 < _cheerios> all i know i have mails from one of the agavi lists fwdd to my gmail acc
07:49 < RossC0> http://groups.google.com/group/agavi-users/browse_thread/thread/ab5dcb0304b45977
07:49 < _cheerios> hasnt warranted more attention than that ;)
07:49 < RossC0> :D
07:52 < RossC0> _cheerios: ftw: feed://groups.google.com/group/agavi-users/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml
07:52 < RossC0> you'll never miss a thread again ;)
07:52 < _cheerios> sweet. I'll set us up an agavi dashboard in a month or so :)
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07:59 < _cheerios> i worked so many hours infront of computer on the weekend that my eyes are so strained even this morning
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08:38 < E_mE> huomenta everyone :) hope all of you bode well!
08:40 < SunboX> does anyone know if there are any docs about propel validator?
08:40 < SunboX> for examble what rules are possible? unique, minLength, maxlength, match, ... ?
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10:36 < Whisller> hi
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10:53 < _cheerios> “You’re nobody here at $10 million,” Mr. Kremen said earnestly over a glass of pinot noir at an upscale wine bar here.
10:53 < _cheerios> :p
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10:55 < ttj> _cheerios: Where's "here"?
10:55 < ttj> Silicon Valey?
10:56 < _cheerios> yessir
10:56 < ttj> Yeah, well, it's just a bit over 7 million in hard currency.
10:56 < ttj> So I'll have to agree with Mr. Kremen.
11:02 < _cheerios> I'll have to have some words with Kremen when I can compare assets comfortably :)
11:11 < _cheerios> "Spouses talk, and now that resort in Mexico the family enjoyed so much last winter is not good enough when looking ahead to next year."
11:11 < _cheerios> :p
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13:27 < SunboX> can someone help me with routing?
13:27 < SunboX> i've this routes: http://p.caboo.se/private/homzxql4x2qfeaoax3
13:27 < SunboX> but when i call
13:28 < SunboX> default/user/6/modify/extended
13:28 < SunboX> nothing works
13:28 < SunboX> only when i call
13:28 < SunboX> default/user/6/modify/extended/
13:28 < SunboX> why?
13:28 < SunboX> $ro->gen('default.users.modify.extended')
13:28 < SunboX> produces the NOT working path
13:33 < SunboX> is this a bug?
13:34 < SunboX> is the routing wrong?
13:34 < SunboX> i don't know...
13:34 < RossC0>  SunboX: do you pass an id ? i.e. $ro->gen('default.users.modify.extended', array('id' => 1));
13:36 < SunboX> no, i don't
13:36 < RossC0> I don't use callbacks for id validation - I generally have done that in validate of the action but what does CMSUserExistsRoutingCallback do?
13:37 < SunboX> http://p.caboo.se/85258
13:37 < RossC0> can you try passing the id into the route
13:37 < SunboX> yes, but the id is passed in... that should not be the problem
13:38 < RossC0> ah ok
13:38 < SunboX> the generatet path doesnt work (but it should)
13:38 < RossC0> seems to be a bug
13:38 < RossC0> can you add this to the path
13:38 < SunboX> but the generatet path + '/' does work
13:39 < SunboX> i dont know why
13:39 < RossC0> (/)?
13:39 < RossC0> should fix it
13:39 < SunboX> yes
13:39 < SunboX> that would fix it
13:39 < SunboX> but isnt very nice ;o)
13:39 < _cheerios> the $ in the end made t not work with /
13:39 < SunboX> yes
13:39 < _cheerios> you can remove the $ and both work
13:40 < _cheerios> or use that (/)
13:40 < SunboX> both wont work... but with added '/' it will
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13:46 < RossC0> SunboX: can you file a ticket :D
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15:55 < digitarald> Huomenta!
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16:25 < Wombert> huomenta
16:28 < Whisller> hi
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16:31 < RossC0> Wombert: you made it!
16:31 < Wombert> eh?
16:31 < Wombert> :>
16:31 < Wombert> no
16:31 < Wombert> I'm in teh hotel
16:32 < Wombert> where they don't have DHCP for the lan cable that's sitting inthe corner
16:32 < Wombert> so I gave it a static IP and done :p
16:32 < Wombert> I bet they'd sell me an instructions kit or something if I asked about internet access ^^
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16:55 < digitarald> when I don't want to build xml for my database with propel, what are the alternative solutions?
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17:16 < digitarald> Doctrine maybe?
17:21 < digitarald> RossC0, u tested agavi with doctrine?
17:22 < RossC0> Yup
17:22 < RossC0> using doctrine now :D
17:22 < digitarald> I don't want to use command line and xml in my new small project
17:22 < RossC0> btw digitarald you about tomorrow want to talk to you about mooselectors
17:22 < digitarald> doctrine seems fine ... so the only files I need are in the ticket?
17:23 < digitarald> to make them ready for 1.2
17:23 < digitarald> including better event detection ;)
17:23 < RossC0> yep
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17:23 < digitarald> like behaviours
17:24 < digitarald> we can use the internal $events
17:24 < digitarald> to save the correct method
17:24 < RossC0> digitarald - just need BaseDoctrineDatabase
17:24 < digitarald> i read, yes
17:24 < RossC0> and include the DoctrineRecord Models in autoload
17:25 < digitarald> mh ... they dont have the context ...
17:25 < digitarald> ... but i can give it when i export the data
17:26 < digitarald> doctrine has no tagged versions ... so ... trunk svn
17:26 < RossC0> yup
17:27 < RossC0> its still changing lots with soc - but the api is *stable*
17:27 < RossC0> updated the BaseDoctrineDatabase
17:28 < RossC0> thats attached to the ticket as it had some depreciated stuff in it
17:28 < RossC0> i.e now uses AgaviToolkit::expandDirectives
17:28 < digitarald> btw ... u ever visited mallorca or ibiza? brits seems to love it
17:28 < RossC0> no - to chav for me!
17:29 < RossC0> brits love anywhere that sells cheap beer and has menus with "english" food like fish and chips, curry or fry ups...
17:29 < digitarald> i mean, these tourist centers are embarrassing :D
17:29 < digitarald> :D they all had their english breakfast
17:30 < RossC0> I can imagine! :D
17:30 < digitarald> 12 o'clock
17:30 < digitarald> hottest sun, all spains has siesta
17:30 < RossC0> with a pint of lager!
17:30 < digitarald> and they eat food with fat and bacon
17:30 < RossC0> yup - generally not the best of breed that go there!
17:31 < digitarald> ... and of course the pint, during the hottest time of the day
17:31 < digitarald> crazy
17:31 < digitarald> in Sant Antoni thousands of brits
17:31 < digitarald> in Eivissa, on the other side, Italians
17:32 < digitarald> between those party zones plain beaches and pine woods for the other visitors :D
17:33 < RossC0> yeah - I heard Ibiza is really nice away from the hordes!
17:33 < RossC0> right time to go !
17:33 < digitarald> it is, magical
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18:15 < _cheerios> FPF sure can be intimidating when it throws 3 pages of errors at ya. Atleast it makes you do valid pages in the end ;)
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20:47 < _cheerios> ~~ \o/ ~~
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23:00 < NekoKun> how 'stable' is agavi?
23:00 < NekoKun> ok
23:00 < NekoKun> pretty much
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06:12 < RossC0> huomenta!
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06:39 < RossC0> huomenta Wombert!
06:41 < Wombert> oi
06:41 < RossC0> hows it going ?
06:42  * RossC0 is on a caffeine fueled mission to finish the styling today for review tomorrow...
06:42 < RossC0> :D
06:43 < Wombert> got one of these, eh, stress headaches, y'know
06:43 < RossC0> eek
06:43 < Wombert> and working from the hotel because the firewall at the office is a dick :p
06:44 < RossC0> hmm norra lorra fun 
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07:51 < luke`> huomenta!
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08:08 < MikeSeth> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
08:08 < MikeSeth> huomenta
08:13 < Arme[N]> huomenta
08:13 < MikeSeth> what did I miss in last 3-4 days?
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09:18 < RossC0> MikeSeth: norra lorra - everyones been busy!
09:19 < MikeSeth> weee
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09:30 < digitarald> Huomenta
09:31 < RossC0> Huomenta
09:33 < _cheerios> huomenta :)
09:39 < _cheerios> any sysadmins here? 
09:39 < _cheerios> preferably with good network,linux,Xen knowledge
09:43 < digitarald> ... ok ... lets start with Doctrine ...
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10:06 < Whisller> hi :)
10:09 < MikeSeth> _cheerios: you be hirink? :)
10:10 < MikeSeth> Whisller: sup
10:10 < Whisller> good. I have lots of work but I think today will be good day.
10:11 < _cheerios> na, have a problem.
10:11 < _cheerios> eth0 goes promiscous for some reason at times. either Xen related or trouble :)
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10:17 < MikeSeth> cher|afk: might be something stupid like network scripts trying to set up a bridge
10:17 < MikeSeth> Xen may cause that too
10:17 < cher|afk> i hope so. one thing it's doing is killing the network connection, isolating the virtual from the internet. which is not good when it's the main web server :)
10:18 < cher|afk> --> off
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12:38 < luke`> how do I delete files that are not in a list of files on linux?
12:39 < MikeSeth> you mean .files?
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12:53 < luke`> MikeSeth: I got a list of files in a .txt and need to delete all other files that don't exist in the .txt
12:53 < MikeSeth> ah uhm
12:53 < MikeSeth> I suppose one could do something like this
12:54 < MikeSeth> hmm hold on :D
12:55 < luke`> we are talking 18K+ files in the .txt :)
12:55 < MikeSeth> I suppose it should be something like this
12:55 < MikeSeth> ls -1|grep -v `xargs file.txt`|xargs|rm
12:55 < MikeSeth> but please dont try that at home
12:55 < MikeSeth> its grep -v -F
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13:20 < cher|afk> evil rm scripts o_O
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13:31 < _cheerios> need to buy a wedding dress by friday evening. got the jacket so far :)
13:33 < ttj> Wedding dress?
13:33 < ttj> Isn't that typically reserved for the bride...
13:33 < _cheerios> ah, yeah, probably a suit is the right word in my case :)
13:34 < _cheerios> damn expensive these things. a jacker alone is 100e. then there's the shirt,pants,socks,tie(maybe),shoes left. gah!
13:35 < ttj> Well come on, a jacket is typically about 300e and up by itself. ;-)
13:35 < _cheerios> not on my budget :D
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13:36 < ttj> You're getting married?
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13:36 < ttj> Or just a guest?
13:37 < _cheerios> a guest
13:37 < ttj> Well, then you'll be just fine with any old suit you have. ;-)
13:37 < _cheerios> i can't afford to get married, heh heh
14:09 < _cheerios> "In a classic confrontation over Icahn's hostile bid for Phillps Petroleum, Morgan Stanley investment banker Joe Fogg declared the proposal preposterous. "What the hell do you know about the oil business?" he demanded to know. "You don't understand, Joe," Ichan calmly replied, "I'm not here for an interview"
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15:00 < Zibi_> helo
15:01 < Zibi_> is there any way from error view of slot to load action again with only that slot changed to error view?
15:01 < Zibi_> in other way...
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15:01 < Zibi_> i have action that produces view with 2 slots
15:01 < Zibi_> one of them is form
15:02 < Zibi_> and how to easy make it so if there are errors in form 
15:02 < Zibi_> to come back to whole view
15:02 < Zibi_> not only to error view of form
15:02 < Zibi_> i hope you know what i mean
15:02 < Zibi_> ;]
15:04 < RossC0> Is there a way to grab the url and save it like the login intercept does?
15:04 < RossC0> how do you guys handle errors in slot forms?
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15:38 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: hello.
15:38 < Zibi_> hi
15:38 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: perhaps you want a forward action
15:38 < MikeSeth> RossC0: d'ya mean in FPF sense or in action failure sense?
15:40 < Zibi_> i want some mechanizm so i can see exacly same page just with errors in form
15:40 < RossC0> action failure sense
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15:40 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: FPF would do that for you globally. Not sure how it handles slots.
15:40 < RossC0> I'll bbl - got to get the train and get the little one from nursery
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15:41 < MikeSeth> RossC0: I suppose failed action either uses a forward, or selects an appropriate view
15:44 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: actually, I'm wrong. FPF would do that for you, provided you feed it the form values and validation results for the slot. 
15:45 < Zibi_> so it will be enough if in error view i will redirect with data holder?
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15:52 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: redirect? I dont think so
15:53 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: rather, if you use validation properly, then the action in the slot fails at validation
15:53 < Zibi_> yea and then going to error view of slot
15:53 < Zibi_> or am i missed something
15:54 < MikeSeth> Yes. And in the error view you load up the form values and validation results into FPF
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15:54 < Zibi_> yea and then ?
15:54 < Zibi_> redirect ?
15:54 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: and thats it. FPF fills the form with values and uses CSS classes to signify where an error occured.
15:54 < Zibi_> if i not redirect i will just see slot with errors
15:55 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: again, redirect is something you can do globally. With slots, you should use forward or a deferred action
15:55 < Zibi_> yea i know but from what you saying from page <page><slot1><slot2 (form)>
15:55 < Zibi_> i will finish in <(form) error view>
15:55 < MikeSeth> which will draw the original form, the values, and CSS classes for erring fields
15:56 < MikeSeth> isnt that what you want?
15:56 < Zibi_> no
15:56 < Zibi_> i want go to <page><slot1><slot2 (form) with errors>
15:56 < MikeSeth> no no no no no
15:56 < MikeSeth> form with errors is the same as form with values and FPF css validation classes
15:57 < Zibi_> yes but somehow i need to go to action that will also display <page> and <slot1>
15:58 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: that's because you're not distinguishing between the central action - the one that responds to request and is selected by routing - and secondary actions that come from slots/layouts and other actions
15:58 < MikeSeth> you can redirect for the central action, because it's an HTTP level redirect command to the browser
15:58 < MikeSeth> but you can not redirect a slot
15:59 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: in other words, your Error view and template should be the default form, and the Success view is something that is a result of submitting that form successfuly
15:59 < Zibi_> so you want me to make action to save form and action to display form?
16:01 < Zibi_> hmm lets say that i have something like <page action1><slot1 action2><slot2 action 3 (form>
16:01 < Zibi_> and that form is submited to?
16:01 < Zibi_> action 4?
16:01 < Zibi_> action 1?
16:01 < Zibi_> or action 3
16:18 < MikeSeth> sorry, I was away
16:19 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: no. The action is the same.
16:19 < MikeSeth> But, the action has a write method and a read method.
16:19 < Zibi_> yes
16:19 < Zibi_> but what you mean by action same
16:19 < Zibi_> action1 that display whole page with slots or action 3
16:19 < Zibi_> ?
16:20 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: I think it would be better if you pasted some examples. Otherwise I am afraid I will confuse you more.
16:20 < MikeSeth> Zibi_: will you be here in an hour?
16:20 < Zibi_> i have action that displays content and comment to it and add comment form
16:20 < Zibi_> comments and add comment form are slots
16:21 < Zibi_> and if somebody click submit in add comment form i want to go back to action that displays content
16:21 < Zibi_> but add form i want to have with errors 
16:22 < MikeSeth> so, add a validator to the comment submit action
16:22 < MikeSeth> if there is an error, then the action's executeWrite() isn't called, instead the error view is invoked, in which you load the values into FPF and get your slot with your error form
16:25 < Zibi_> to comment submit action?
16:25 < Zibi_> or to content display action
16:25 < Zibi_> i have validator in comment submit action
16:26 < Zibi_> but it returns error view of slot only
16:26 < Zibi_> and i want everything
16:26 < Zibi_> with content list of comments and form with errors
16:27 < MikeSeth> hmmmm
16:27 < MikeSeth> I have to go home now, but I will be back online within an hour, will you still be here?
16:28 < Zibi_> no im going home in 30 min
16:28 < Zibi_> but i will be here whole tomorow
16:28 < Zibi_> ;]
16:28 < MikeSeth> post to the mailing list!
16:28 < Zibi_> hmm
16:28 < Zibi_> ok
16:29 < Zibi_> thanks for trying to help
16:29 < MikeSeth> actually my ride is delayed
16:29 < MikeSeth> i have 20 minutes more
16:30 < Zibi_> hehe so want me to explain it again?
16:30 < MikeSeth> tell me, why do you want an error view for -everything-?
16:30 < MikeSeth> whats the point?
16:30 < Zibi_> to look better
16:30 < Zibi_> now i have nice content and list of comment and form on the bottom
16:30 < Zibi_> and if there is error in form i jump to form view only
16:31 < Zibi_> and in form is only one field so it looks bad
16:31 < MikeSeth> then maybe you should make the form ajaxy?
16:31 < Zibi_> i have it with ajax now
16:31 < MikeSeth> (still, I dont see how it looks better)
16:32 < Zibi_> just was wondering
16:32 < Zibi_> if there is any tricky way of doing it without ajax
16:32 < MikeSeth> no, I think you're simply doing it wrong :)
16:33 < MikeSeth> and of course, you can check in the view if the action is running in a slot or not
16:33 < MikeSeth> (donno if that helps in your case)
16:33 < MikeSeth> Now that I think of it.. I dont really know how to do that right
16:34 < MikeSeth> you should really post to the mailing list
16:34 < Zibi_> i remember that i was wondering with Rossco how to do it properly some time ago
16:34 < Zibi_> but i dont remember what was conclusion
16:34 < Zibi_> ;]
16:36 < MikeSeth> now that I think of it
16:36 < MikeSeth> it should be a single action, not two actions and two slots
16:36 < MikeSeth> nah, im wrong.
16:37 < Zibi_> but im using add comment action in few different places
16:38 < MikeSeth> yeah, im not thinking straight after 10 hours of debugging
16:38 < Zibi_> hehe no worries i will figure something out
16:38 < MikeSeth> oh I think I know the answer
16:39 < MikeSeth> suppose you have action ShowComments and action AddComment
16:39 < MikeSeth> they live in 2 slots
16:39 < MikeSeth> action ShowComments has only a general execute() method
16:39 < MikeSeth> action AddComment has a read and a write method
16:39 < MikeSeth> that's more or less what you have now right?
16:39 < Zibi_> yes
16:39 < MikeSeth> you create a third wrapper action
16:40 < MikeSeth> let's say, CommentsPage
16:40 < MikeSeth> you create a layout that specifies two slots for that action
16:40 < splatch> hello
16:41 < Zibi_> mhm but if i submit for to AddComment i will end in AddComment view (unless redirect)
16:41 < MikeSeth> it doesnt have to, though I am not sure what is the right way to handle this without Ajax
16:42 < Zibi_> and if i submit to CommentPage i will not be able to use it in different actions
16:42 < MikeSeth> why not?
16:42 < Zibi_> becouse form will send me to CommentPage instead to parent action
16:42 < MikeSeth> CommentPage's write method just forwards the submitted data to AddComment's write method
16:42 < MikeSeth> No no no no no. You execute AddComment in a container
16:43 < MikeSeth> actually now that I think of it, there might be a dispatch mechanism which knows how to map partial POST requests to a specific action or slot
16:43 < MikeSeth> but its something only Wombie and ka0s would knows about
16:43 < MikeSeth> of course, state retention is a problem
16:47 < _cheerios> all this talk, what was the problem?
16:48 < MikeSeth> _cheerios: errors after a submit through an action that lives in a slot
16:49 < _cheerios> ah.
16:54 < Zibi_> what about calling that master action with something similar to createSlot and that just output it with my fpf and errors
16:55 < splatch> Zibi_: where you from?
16:56 < Zibi_> poland
16:56 < Zibi_> but i live in uk
16:58 < splatch> Zibi_: siemano, ja siedze jeszcze w polszy :)
16:58 < Zibi_> still... ;)
16:58 < splatch> yeah, still in this sick country
16:58 < Zibi_> :D
17:00 < splatch> just like my friend said: every day our country talking to me - go away ;)
17:00 < splatch> Zibi_: i don't know how to translate spier... to english
17:01 < Zibi_> hmm get the f*** out?
17:01 < Zibi_> or something like this
17:02 < splatch> hehe, our language is so simple, one word and everything is clear :)
17:02 < splatch> Zibi_: how long do you use agavi?
17:03 < Zibi_> hmm few months
17:03 < Zibi_> i started when i was moved to project on which i work with Rossc0
17:04 < splatch> och, you're Ross friend who translated for him post from my blog :)
17:04 < Zibi_> but i rather do monkey job then something sophisticated with it
17:04 < Zibi_> hmm maybe ;)
17:05 < Zibi_> ok 18.00 i can go home =]
17:06 < splatch> see you :)
17:06 < Zibi_> cya tommorow i will write if i figure out how to post that action from slot
17:06 < Zibi_> bye!
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17:14 < _cheerios> can one register multiple validators to be run for an action? An xinclude in the parent actions validator? If so, he could just make the comment addition a good old object (that is run in the parent action), and throw in the validation for the slot form. I take it the slot action was created to wrap in the 1) action, and 2) view logic, 3) a template and 4) validation for reuse? This way he'd have his form with errors, and retain the look of the
17:14 < _cheerios>  parent action while encapsulating the logic to his object. Yes/No?
17:15 < _cheerios> It does need registering a few things, so not ideal, but something to chew on until Wombert chimes in.
17:20 < _cheerios> POPO, Plain Old Php Object. *chuckle* (popo=shoe)
17:21 < _cheerios> 31C inside... im heading out for a jog. Can't do **** in this heat.
17:39 < splatch> :D
17:39 < splatch> POPO :DDD
17:39 < splatch> that's like POJO
17:39 < splatch> but i don't know sense in name POPO, does PHP Objects was complex like EJB's?
17:39 < splatch> brb
17:40 < splatch> or bbl
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18:05 < digitarald> mh, whats loaded first, AgaviSessionStorage or Database?
18:15 < _cheerios> aah....
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18:36 < RossC0> huomenta
18:39 < _cheerios> RossC0 up at this hour. What's wrong? :D
18:39 < RossC0> work!
18:40 < RossC0> just reading ze logs to see what thoughts there were about the posting of a slot returning to the parent actions layout 
18:40 < RossC0> but I have work todo in the meantime!
18:40 < RossC0> so I shall ponder on!
18:40 < _cheerios> I tried to get work done this evening but it's been 30C in the apartment making me look like someone watching TV. A zombie :|
18:41 < _cheerios> Right, I'll get to work after a quick dinner.
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19:03 < Wombert> uzah
19:03 < Wombert> +w
19:07  * Wombert pokes RossC0 
19:07 < Wombert> SUPWITHYADUDE
19:07 < Wombert> still online? oO
19:07 < RossC0> yo - still working :-/
19:08 < RossC0> eek
19:10 < RossC0> <3 MooTools!
19:11 < RossC0> 		var clone = this.options.clone;
19:11 < RossC0> 		switch ($type(clone)){
19:11 < RossC0> 			case 'function': this.clone = clone.call(this, this.element); break;
19:11 < RossC0> 			case 'boolean': clone = (clone) ? {'opacity': 0.7} : {'visibility': 'hidden'};
19:11 < RossC0> 			case 'object': this.clone = this.element.clone(this.cloneContents).setStyles(clone);
19:11 < RossC0> 		}
19:11 < RossC0> for sortables - very clever / flexible!  
19:12 < RossC0> you can pass different objects for the clone method - I was asked to just have a border showing the drop zone so
19:12 < RossC0> the clone option becomes: clone: {'border': '1px dashed #a9a9a9', 'background': 'transparent', 'color': '#fff'} and vola!
19:12 < RossC0> <3
19:14  * RossC0 hugs Wombert 
19:15 < Wombert> nice
19:15 < Wombert> ace ace indeed
19:15 < Wombert> almost on an agavian level :>
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19:18 < RossC0> close :D
19:23 < _cheerios> i have no idea what that does, but thumbs up! :D
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19:27 < MrJeep> hi
19:27 < MrJeep> I'm wondering what would be the best way to store an ip address in a database
19:27 < MrJeep> I remember PHPBB transformed it somehow
19:28 < RossC0> convert to a long?
19:29 < MrJeep> I can't remeber exacly. You would convert it to a long ?
19:29 < splatch> hello RossC0 
19:30 < splatch> hello Wombert :)
19:30 < RossC0> heh splatch long time no see!
19:30 < RossC0> MrJeep - easier to index / store
19:30 < splatch> RossC0: yes, long time :)
19:30 < RossC0> saw your site had been dzoned!
19:30 < splatch> anyone want's see Agavi module editor UI - final version? ;)
19:31 < RossC0> MrJeep http://uk2.php.net/ip2long
19:31 < splatch> RossC0: yes, was and was kicked ;)
19:31 < RossC0> kicked ?
19:32 < splatch> yeah, 10 votes up and 10 votes down
19:33 < splatch> btw this post i writed to contest
19:34 < splatch> and now judge must translate it to english
19:34 < splatch> http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/wayne/2007/08/02/enjoy-the-shirt/ :)
19:35 < splatch> RossC0: today we saw here Zibi, do you work with he?
19:35 < RossC0> yeah hes my team :D
19:36 < splatch> cool, you've own team? :)
19:36 < splatch> it is big team?
19:36 < RossC0> yeah it is Zibi!
19:37 < RossC0> but it depends on the project
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19:37 < RossC0> apparently - but we'll have to see how many underlings I can get in the near future
19:38 < RossC0> right I have work to finish off!
19:39 < splatch> bbl :)
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19:57 < MrJeep_> under propel, anyone can tell me the difference between DOUBLE, DECIMAL, and FLOAT ?
20:00 < splatch> there isn't differences
20:01 < splatch> for php all float point types are one
20:01 < MrJeep_> yeah but with propel
20:02 < MrJeep_> for a given field's tpe
20:02 < MrJeep_> type*
20:02 < splatch> propel translate given type to database type
20:03 < splatch> for example mssql doesn't support decimal type
20:03 < splatch> only number(x,y)
20:03 < splatch> etc
20:05 < RossC0> laters all
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20:11 < digitarald> mh ... now i like doctrine ... they use mootools in their docs
20:16 < _cheerios> heh
20:18 < _cheerios> i like moo as the sortables are so much faster here on linux-ff than the prototype sortables i've been using before
20:20 < digitarald> the only fast thing in prototype are the selectors, because they copied them from yui ext :)
20:21 < digitarald> anyway, if u write apps that don't need to be fast its cool
20:26 < _cheerios> the performance was horrible. I want my js to be fast on linux-ff, if only for me ;)
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20:29 < digitarald> same here ... 20% of my mootools development are performance tests in firebug :D
20:29 < digitarald> and moobuger
20:32 < splatch> moo is everywhere! :)
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20:37 < digitarald> ... i have something without moo in the name ... http://digitarald.de/playground/text.html
20:44 < splatch> digitarald: that's coooooooooooolest java script i ever seen!
20:45 < digitarald> thx
20:46 < _cheerios> nice. beats my inline edit from 2005 :D
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20:51 < splatch> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1735543
20:51 < splatch> omfg
20:51 < splatch> skatebording children :)
20:53 < _cheerios> kids!
20:54 < splatch> sorry :)
20:55 < splatch> kids
20:56 < _cheerios> i wish i knew more about linux & networking :/
20:58 < splatch> just lern
20:59 < splatch> learn :)
21:01 < _cheerios> would mean putting a few hrs a day aside for it
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21:35 < v-dogg> huomenta
21:35 < splatch> oi v-dogg!
21:36 < v-dogg> what's up
21:37 < splatch> hm.. nothing, i drink tea, eat something and read some stuff on eclipse news groups :)
21:37 < splatch> v-dogg: do you saw my screenshot with editor?
21:37 < v-dogg> nopes, been away for a few days
21:38 < splatch> v-dogg: welcome back Mr Freeman :)
21:39 < splatch> v-dogg: http://img.wklej.org/v.php?id=76022agavi%20module%20editor.PNG
21:39 < splatch> here is editor
21:39 < splatch> currently it's only displaing data, not storing
21:40 < splatch> currently he only displaing data, not storing
21:40 < splatch> what version are better?
21:41 < splatch> or what version are correct? :)
21:42 < v-dogg> currently it only displays (the) data, doesn't store
21:43 < v-dogg> bed time (says missus)
21:43 < splatch> v-dogg: thank you very much!
21:43 < v-dogg> laters :)
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21:48 < Whisller> hi
21:48 < splatch> ho
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06:05 < impl> Wombert: wtf you doing in Romania
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06:19 < Wombert> impl: work :p
06:19 < impl> Oh ;p
06:20 < Wombert> and then holidays with some friends
06:20 < Wombert> if the work is done :p
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06:21 < impl> Cool :D
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06:52 < _cheerios> huomenta!
07:06 < Wombert> oi
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07:28 < luke`_> huomenta
07:28 < MikeSeth> huomenta
07:37 < Arme[N]> huomenta
07:37 < ttj> Yo.
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07:56 < digitarald> v-dogg, what comes first: Database initialize or User startup
07:57 < digitarald> mh, in factories user comes after database
07:58 < digitarald> doctrine throws a Doctrine_Connection_Exception, like its not connected when the User starts up
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08:09 < digitarald> nevermind, solved
08:10 < MikeSeth> digitarald: you managed to force Doctrine to work properly?
08:10 < MikeSeth> last time I tried, I found it.. undocumented.
08:11 < digitarald> http://www.phpdoctrine.net/doctrine/manual/new/?one-page=1
08:11 < digitarald> and from RossC0: http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/381
08:11 < digitarald> had to connect during initialize
08:11 < digitarald> the only change
08:13 < digitarald> now it works like charme with serialised records
08:30 < digitarald> the nested sets are pretty cool
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10:59 < RossC0> Huomenta!
11:09 < v-dogg> huomenta
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11:34 < digitarald> hey RossC0
11:35 < RossC0> hey
11:35 < RossC0> 3 hour meeting
11:35 < RossC0> fek
11:36 < digitarald> MooSelectors refactored
11:36 < digitarald> shall they also work with 1.11?
11:37 < RossC0> nah
11:37 < RossC0> mine doesnt :D
11:37 < digitarald> not?
11:37 < RossC0> I moved it to 1.2
11:37 < digitarald> only bindWithEvent, what else?
11:38 < RossC0> actually it should work backwards
11:38 < RossC0> only thing I need to improve is the event cache
11:38 < RossC0> as its a double index cache at the moment
11:39 < RossC0> so I can check if events already exist - so I don't reapply event to elements
11:39 < RossC0> I think you've seen it - want a pastie?
11:39 < digitarald> ;)
11:41 < digitarald> let me test and i paste mine
11:46 < RossC0> gogogo
11:50 < MikeSeth> zibi asked an interesting question yesterday and I didnt have an answer
11:51 < MikeSeth> he has a bunch of slotted actions, one of which is a form. when that form is submitted, how should the submitted values be delivered to the slotted action? it is not the main action that handles them
11:51 < MikeSeth> and more to the point, how to preserve states of other slots when validation on the form's action fails 
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12:08 < RossC0> yeah - still not sure on the answer
12:08 < RossC0> because the slot should be able to be called independently
12:09 < RossC0> or have the ability so that it can
12:10 < RossC0> so I'm guessing that there has to be some mechanism - (the session?) which stores information about what the current action is and if a slot fails then diverts back to the previous current action
12:11 < RossC0> it won't necessary help keep state of other slots - but it will mean that the slots errors are displayed in the same context as they occured
12:12 < RossC0> I think I can manage that easily, similar to how the flash works but will need to think / test it out 
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12:17 < RossC0> bbl lunch!
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12:17 < Whisller> hi :)
12:17 < MikeSeth> RossC0: yeah, I thought some sort of dispatching mechanism is needed, but that would mean you need to indiscriminately save the state of previous actions
12:17 < MikeSeth> sounds like a bad idea..
13:07 < _cheerios> 30C inside again. :|
13:07 < luke`> ac broken?
13:08 < _cheerios> no such thing
13:09 < RossC0> MikeSeth: hmm must be a way to grab the current action and all slots for a request and putting that into an array.  Then on FPF error check if the previous request was a slot - if so forward / redirect back to the action
13:10 < RossC0> you'd need two arrays - current and previous and some way to repopulate the FPF with the error data
13:12 < RossC0> digitarald - any sign of ze code?
13:13 < MikeSeth> In short. We need conditional slots.
13:16 < digitarald> 2min
13:17 < _cheerios> you mean something like if(slot) process, check referer, match to routing, and load originating action while including the data/errors from slot action?
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13:47 < Chonsu> hi, i have one question. isnt it possible to access parameters of the requestdataholder inside the view of slots? the access to this parameters works well in the main view. inside the slot view the values are not set.
13:48 < MikeSeth> of course its possible
13:48 < MikeSeth> but you of course want the request values, not the ones destined for this particular action
13:48 < MikeSeth> this isnt a good idea
13:48 < MikeSeth> it means there's an inconsistency in your application design
13:49 < Chonsu> ok, how should i do it? pass them when i create the slot container?
13:51 < MikeSeth> I am sorry to say that I dont know for sure. You can access the global request object if that helps.
13:53 < Chonsu> thx, i will try this
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14:34 < RossC0> ok how'd I do a forward in a view?
14:34  * RossC0 being lazy
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14:37 < RossC0> got it
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14:53 < MikeSeth> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiieieeieieieieieie
14:53 < MikeSeth> weeieieieieiieieieie
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15:05 < RossC0> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
15:05 < RossC0> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
15:05 < RossC0> :D
15:07 < v-dogg> now now, calm down lads :)
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15:25 < aOgara|back> hy
15:25 < MikeSeth> hello hello, and welcome to the conspiracy
15:25 < aOgara|back> hehe
15:26 < MikeSeth> the ohloh URL in the topic will give you an overview
15:26 < aOgara|back> which i curently do
15:27 < MikeSeth> good, good.
15:27 < MikeSeth> I'm the propaganda officer for this project.
15:27 < MikeSeth> I will convert you now!
15:27 < MikeSeth> :D
15:27 < aOgara|back> haha ... I check it
15:28 < aOgara|back> i'll give you m