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08:31 < v-dogg> huomenta
09:06 < luke`> huomenta
09:06 < v-dogg> friday \o/
09:06 < luke`> yay
09:06 < luke`> i will probably be happier in the evening
09:07 < v-dogg> week's last monday
09:09 < v-dogg> is today update-agavi-to-the-latest-from-svn day
09:09 < v-dogg> (and break the project day)
09:10 < v-dogg> it could be, yeah
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09:24 < luke`> :)
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09:44 < Arme[N]> morning
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10:14 < Whisller> hi
10:20 < codecop> hi
10:23 < Whisller> can someone help mi with mod rewrite :> , i can't (don't know how) change \index.php5 to \index.html :/
10:25 < Whisller> this is my .htaccess file http://phpfi.com/180296
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10:36 < splatch`> oi!
10:39 < Whisller> hmm
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11:00 < codecop> i looked at ircLogs, cant find example of usage registerValidators and how register for eg. emailValidator thanx
11:01 < codecop> someone can post in phpfi.com example?
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11:19 < v-dogg> codecop: just a sec, I'll write an example
11:19 < codecop> ok
11:35 < v-dogg> clients keep bothering me, sorry... :)
11:37 < codecop> all ok, just when u have time
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12:08 < digitarald> morning agavi fellows
12:10 < toby_swe[a]> can anyone give me an example of what the configuration for a AgaviSimpleTranslator should look like? I don't seem to get it right...
12:40 < digitarald> i have validatorquestion, too ... what is the difference between conditional and strict mode ... my answer: in strict only validated parameters are avaible when no errors occured?!
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12:53 < v-dogg> digitarald: hmm.. what's the problem?
12:53 < v-dogg> strict = "Only validated request variables are available."
12:54 < v-dogg> conditional = "All request variables are available when no validation defined else only validated request variables are available."
12:54 < v-dogg> does it not work this way or what's the problem?
12:57 < digitarald> conditional ... no xml -> all parameters avaible, with xml -> only validated parameters avaible
13:02 < v-dogg> yep
13:20 < digitarald> i love code igniter ... look at comment_insert() ;)
13:20 < digitarald> http://www.bitwisemag.com/images/scrshots/prog/php/dev/code_igniter_tutorial.gif
13:22 < v-dogg> uh.. wtf?
13:22 < v-dogg> it set's values from $_POST?
13:22 < v-dogg> -'
13:25 < digitarald> hope the $_POST validation is good ;)
13:26 < digitarald> so they can make a blog in 30min ;)
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14:13 < Whisller> I've got a little question about routing and imply parrameter. I must add to all URLs  '.html', how I can do it?
14:14 < v-dogg> foo.com/products/5.html?
14:14 < v-dogg> I'd leave that to mod_rewrite perhaps
14:14 < v-dogg> ah but you need to generate them too :)
14:15 < Whisller> yes yes but can i add '.html' to all routes global?
14:15 < Whisller> using parameter imply?
14:15 < Whisller> in htacces i have RewriteRule ^(.+)\.(html|pdf|js)$  index.php5?$1 [L]  :)
14:16 < Whisller> otherhands i can add '.html' to route by hand but maybe is another (simply) idea?
14:19 < Whisller> in sample application i seen it. and i tried <route pattern="\.html$" imply="true" /> but that was bad idea
14:19 < v-dogg> howcome?
14:21 < Whisller> howcome? this means why?
14:22 < v-dogg> yes
14:22 < Whisller> because this does't work :)
14:23 < digitarald> mh, agavi needs an arrayvalidator :)
14:25 < v-dogg> Whisller: <route pattern=".html$" imply="true" stop="false" cut="true" />
14:25 < v-dogg> and put it as the first route, otherwise it won't work
14:26 < v-dogg> tried it and it works
14:26 < Whisller> o
14:26 < Whisller> yes :)
14:26 < Whisller> great
14:26 < Whisller> thanks
14:27 < v-dogg> np
14:36 < Whisller> hmm now i have somethig wrong with htaccess, heh google will help me ;)
14:48 < Whisller> nice, everythink working good :)
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15:07 < Whisller> I have another question, why url like this example.com/index.php5/parameter/parameter-432.html work fine but example.comparameter/parameter-423.html not. in htaccess i have RewriteRule ^(.+)\.html$  index.php5 [L]
15:07 < Whisller> *example.com/
15:07 < Whisller> in second example agavi display module default and action 404
15:08 < Whisller> *Error404
15:08 < Whisller> maybe i have something wrong in htaccess
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15:31 < v-dogg> Whisller: you don't need that rule in the .htaccess, agavi already handles that (because of the route we just sorted out)
15:31 < v-dogg> just take the default .htaccess and use it
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15:33 < Whisller> so i don't nide RewriteRule ^(.+)\.html$ index.php5 [L] ?
15:33 < v-dogg> not for agavi, no
15:33 < Whisller> ok i check it
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15:36 < Whisller> v-dogg, oo you have a right(next case :]), great :) ahh i love agavi :]
15:38 < v-dogg> good good :)
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16:48 < kaos> digitarald: array validator ? care to explain what you need what doesn't work yet ?
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16:52 < Wombert> 14:25 < v-dogg> Whisller: <route pattern=".html$" imply="true" stop="false" cut="true" />
16:53 < Wombert> put it behind the ^/$ rule otherwise you end up with stupid urls like http://foo.com/.index.html ;)
16:53 < Wombert> -.index
16:53 < Wombert> :p
16:53 < Wombert> slaps digitarald 
16:53 < Wombert> tell us tell us tell us
16:54 < Whisller> Wombert, yes. You have a right.
16:55 < Whisller> someone use a google sitemaps?
16:55 < v-dogg> hmm...
16:56 < v-dogg> Wombert: ^/$ should then be the first route and .html route right after that, right?
16:56 < Wombert> precisely
16:56 < Wombert> the thing is
16:56 < Wombert> you might have stuff like /products/list/
16:57 < Wombert> which doesn't need .html either
16:57 < Wombert> but that's not possible atm
16:57 < Wombert> I think about this issue about twice a day but I can't come up with a solution
16:57 < Wombert> example
16:58 < Wombert> how do you tie <route pattern="text/javascript" source="_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT]" output_type="json" /> to only those routes that actually CAN handle json
16:58 < Wombert> mmmh
16:58 < Wombert> brb
17:30 < digitarald> ok ... validating an array input for length (please select at least 5 options from this select ... bla bla) ... it's no problem to write an own validator for that, was just an idea for a standard implementation.
17:32 < digitarald> validators: when i use a numbervalidator, would it be cool that he converts the parameter type correctly, so i don't have to use (int) in the action
17:35 < v-dogg> I'm using a number validator of my own and it does that
17:35 < v-dogg> I could add it to AgaviNumberValidator too
17:35 < v-dogg> Wombert: ok?
17:36 < v-dogg> (home ->)
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17:56 < Wombert> that's an excellent idea
17:56 < Wombert> we need an option to disable the casting, though
17:56 < Wombert> <parameter name="cast">false</parameter>
17:57 < Wombert> and, of course, it must be possible to 
17:57 < Wombert> a) specify only integer, only float or both
17:57 < Wombert> b) cast to int or cast to float
17:57 < Wombert> c) integrate with i18n so germans can enter "5,14" instead of "5.14"
18:10 < Wombert> http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/30/magazines/fortune/obrienseagate.fortune/
18:17 < digitarald> very nice ideas, i love them all
18:18 < Wombert> also we should consider tuning the date validator
18:18 < Wombert> so it
18:18 < digitarald> supporting splitted fields i.e.?
18:19 < Wombert> a) can normalize values to unix timestamp, DateTime object, Calendar object, standard formatted string
18:19 < Wombert> yes
18:19 < Wombert> well the mktimestamp validator does that already
18:19 < Wombert> b) it should, again, use the locale to parse dates
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18:19 < Wombert> c) of course, like number validator, it should be possible to override the locale
18:19 < Wombert> etc etc
18:20 < Wombert> actually
18:20 < Wombert> that's a blocker for 0.11
18:20 < Wombert> we need htat
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19:40 < v-dogg> Wombert: I have absolutely no idea how agavi's locales work so it's better that I don't even try to fix numvalidator to use them :)
19:42 < Wombert> sure :)
19:46 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/359
19:56 < v-dogg> how would numvalidator work with locales if I wanted it to parse both 1,2 and 1.2?
19:56 < Wombert> good question
19:56 < v-dogg> that's essential for me, that's why I'm interested :)
19:57 < v-dogg> and that's why I have my own validator now
19:57 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Validation/RegisteringValidatorsManually thanks for that
20:00 < v-dogg> np
20:00 < Wombert> why the heck is registerValidators given the vm as an argument?
20:00 < Wombert> mmmmmh this is veeeery
20:01 < Wombert> unnecesssaaaaaarrryyyyy
20:01 < Wombert> *sings*
20:01 < Wombert> should we change that?
20:01 < v-dogg> dead weight from mojavi times
20:01 < Wombert> no worries, you could fix it with some preg replace
20:01 < Wombert> anyone against it?
20:01 < v-dogg> will be shot
20:01 < Wombert> xD
20:01 < Wombert> kaos?
20:03 < kaos> np with me
20:03 < Wombert> could you do it?
20:03 < Wombert> I can't be arsed to revert my caching changes from ExecutionFilter
20:04 < Wombert> change AEF::runAction and the declaration and phpdoc in AgaviAction
20:04 < Wombert> and don't forget to add BREAKING CHANGE in the commit msg
20:04 < Wombert> or maybe v-dogg can do it
20:04 < v-dogg> maybe
20:04 < Wombert> haha
20:04 < v-dogg> but I ain't gonna do no coding tonight :)
20:05 < Wombert> awww
20:05  * Wombert kicks v-dogg 
20:05 < Wombert> :<
20:05 < v-dogg> mad week (several weeks) behind, I have earned my night off :)
20:05 < Wombert> sure thing
20:06 < Wombert> btw you can change your svn/trac pass in trac now
20:06 < Wombert> fyi
20:07 < v-dogg> ok
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00:12 < MrJeep> hi
00:12 < MrJeep> I have quesiton about the prototype library.. I have a weird problem with it
00:12 < MrJeep> maybe someone could help
00:12 < MrJeep> I have 3 class
00:13 < MrJeep> DocumentObject class, DocumentMap class and a DocumentZone class.
00:13 < MrJeep> DocumentMap and DocumentZone extends the DocumentObject class
00:14 < MrJeep> The 3 classes a included in my svg document
00:14 < MrJeep> in this order
00:14 < MrJeep> DocumentObject, DocumentMap, DocumentZone
00:15 < MrJeep> now I create an instance of DocumentObject and I alert the content of the initialize method. The content is the DocumentZone method
00:15 < MrJeep> if I don't include the DocumentZone, The initialize method will of the DocumentObject class is the DocumentMap method
00:15 < MrJeep> weird huh ?
00:16 < MrJeep> sounds like the extending has been done in reverse
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03:26 < Wombert> re
03:26 < Wombert> MrJeep: I need to see the code for that
03:26 < Wombert> OO and extending stuff in JS is not trivial
03:58  * Wombert slaps impl 
03:58  * Wombert pokes impl 
03:58 < impl> OW
03:58  * Wombert drags impl by the ear
03:58 < impl> I'm here I'm here!
03:58 < Wombert> what are you doing in #symfony :<
03:58 < Wombert> please don't tell me you're using that crap :<
03:58 < impl> Waiting to catch fabien and tell him to stop stealing Agavi's code
03:58 < Wombert> stay with us :<
03:58 < Wombert> lolmao
03:59 < Wombert> you're not lying to me are you?
03:59 < impl> Hell no
03:59 < Wombert> promise!
03:59 < impl> If you want the truth, I've been looking into feti's new procedural framework, redline
03:59 < Wombert> oh?
03:59 < Wombert> show me!
03:59 < Wombert> procedural? eww
04:00 < Wombert> show show show show!
04:07 < MrJeep> procedural ?
04:07 < MrJeep> function whatever() ?
04:08 < Wombert> yea
04:08 < Wombert> impl!
04:08 < impl> What, sorry
04:08 < impl> I'm installing OpenBSD and it's misbehaving
04:08 < impl> Let me fetch you the link
04:10 < impl> Wombert: http://dev.code-box.org/browse/redline-0.1.3.zip
04:15 < Wombert> mmmmh
04:16 < Wombert> aight
04:16 < Wombert> let's move it where it belongs
04:16 < Wombert> into htdocs
04:16  * Wombert fires up safari
04:17 < Wombert> okay
04:17 < Wombert> it's a pile of crap
04:17 < Wombert> Not Found
04:17 < Wombert> The requested URL /~dzuelke/redline-php/public_html/welcome.php was not found on this server.
04:17 < Wombert> Apache/1.3.33 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
04:17 < Wombert> let's move it where it belongs
04:17 < Wombert> to the trash!
04:18 < Wombert> come on this is not
04:18 < Wombert> at all
04:19 < Wombert> any good
04:19 < Wombert> or am I missing something
04:19 < Wombert> impl?
04:19 < Wombert> MrJeep... what about your JS issues
04:20 < kaos> function rule_alpha_numeric (&$value)
04:20 < kaos> he still hasn't learnt
04:20 < kaos> that passing values by ref doesn't buy you anything in php
04:22 < Wombert> MrJeep: first, create a class
04:22 < impl> Wombert: Try making it index.php/default/welcome
04:22 < impl> Or something like that
04:22 < Wombert> DocumentObject = Class.create();
04:22 < impl> I haven't looked at how it parses URLs yet
04:22 < Wombert> DocumentObject.prototype = {
04:22 < Wombert> code here
04:22 < Wombert> }
04:23 < Wombert> DocumentMap = Class.create();
04:23 < Wombert> Object.extend(Object.extend(DocumentMap.prototype, DocumentObject.prototype), {
04:23 < Wombert> code here
04:23 < Wombert> }
04:23 < kaos> // | Parse the PATH_INFO string and add key/value pairs as parameters.                             |
04:23 < kaos> function & rl_parse_path_info ()
04:24 < kaos>         $path_info       = explode('/', $path_info);
04:24 < kaos> ...
04:25 < Wombert> MrJeep: also note that you can declare a method "initialize" that will then serve as the constructor
04:26 < kaos> tbh, this is crap
04:26 < Wombert> not necessarily
04:26 < Wombert> but definitely redundant
04:26 < Wombert> totally even
04:26 < kaos> no
04:26 < kaos> not that js stuff
04:28 < Wombert> yes
04:29 < Wombert> I'm afraid feti suffers from borderline fatal NIH syndrome
04:29 < Wombert> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here )
04:31 < impl> hehe
04:31 < impl> I'm willing to give it a whirl
04:32 < Wombert> I am, obviously, biased
04:32 < Wombert> so forgive my ignorance
04:35 < kaos> well, from a quick look at the code, i would say: no, thanks
04:35 < Wombert> kicks CIA-11 
04:35 < Wombert> wait
04:35  * Wombert kicks CIA-11 
04:35 < CIA-11> ow
04:36 < kaos> but i'm back to my c++ stuff ;)
04:36 < Wombert> don't say ow, do your job you retard
04:36  * Wombert kicks CIA-11 again
04:57 < MrJeep> am I drunk or what
04:57 < MrJeep> but
04:57 < MrJeep> how -72.073 be smaller than -72.083
04:57 < MrJeep> this is what JS tells me :S
04:59 < Wombert> javascript:alert(-72.073 < -72.083)
04:59 < Wombert> => false
04:59 < MrJeep> arg, my number are badly parsed
04:59 < MrJeep> still considered a string
05:00 < MrJeep> you know what, I hate those stupid mistakes
05:03 < CIA-11> dominik * r1408 /branches/0.11/src/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
05:03 < CIA-11> BREAKING CHANGE!
05:03 < CIA-11> removed validatormanager argument from register*Validators()
05:03 < CIA-11> closes #360
05:03 < kaos> yay
05:05 < Wombert> hours later...
05:20 < MrJeep> no more manual registerValidator ?
05:23 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/changeset/1408
05:23 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Validation/RegisteringValidatorsManually
05:25 < MrJeep> i c
05:52 < MrJeep> hey wombert, what time is it right now where you are ?
05:52 < JamieWolf> 5am :)
05:53 < Wombert> yep
05:53 < Wombert> where are you from btw JamieWolf 
05:53 < JamieWolf> german time ;)
05:53 < JamieWolf> germany
05:53 < Wombert> yeah I know that :p
05:53 < JamieWolf> Hessen, near frankfurt
05:53 < Wombert> did you attend intl php conference?
05:53 < MrJeep> 5 am, not tired ?
05:54 < Wombert> not really
05:54 < JamieWolf> No ... Since coding is just a hobby for me. I also have to work the hole day
05:54 < Wombert> concentration levels sinking but not yet at the point where teh brain refuses to complete simple task
05:54 < Wombert> oh I thought you had some sort of programming job :)
05:54 < JamieWolf> MrJeep after 1 Bottle reb bull - no way of being tired
05:55 < JamieWolf> Wombert why u thought that?
05:55 < Wombert> I'm immune to caffeine
05:55 < Wombert> well
05:55 < Wombert> most people here code for a living
05:56 < Wombert> I think
05:56 < JamieWolf> no I work as a tax consultant
05:56 < Wombert> :)
05:56 < JamieWolf> but it is like coding ... somehow
05:56 < Wombert> do you like agavi?
05:56 < Wombert> will you do our taxes for free? ;o)
05:57 < Wombert> yeah it is
05:57 < Wombert> like coding, taxes are a fucking pain in the ass
05:57 < Wombert> kind of
05:57 < JamieWolf> yeap I do ... I'm checking the website every day ... cant wait to see the homepage
05:57 < JamieWolf> true
05:57 < Wombert> the designer is veeeeeery busy
05:57 < Wombert> so don't expect it tooo soon
05:57 < Wombert> I hope it'll be this year
05:57 < Wombert> or, rather, in time for christmas
05:58 < Wombert> we also finally found a good (but commercial :S) font for the logo
05:59 < Wombert> mmmmmmkay I need some music that helps with concentrating
05:59 < JamieWolf> btw. I can do Ur taxes stuff :)
05:59 < JamieWolf> try some classic stuff
05:59 < Wombert> just put some on :)
06:00 < JamieWolf> put some what?
06:00 < Wombert> classic music
06:00 < JamieWolf> ;) Concentration is sinking rapidly over here 
06:01 < JamieWolf> btw were are u from Wombert?
06:01 < Wombert> munich
06:02  * Wombert yawns
06:02 < Wombert> I guess I _am_ tired
06:02 < impl> I'M CODING IN PERL
06:02 < JamieWolf> nice place, but way to expensive to live there
06:02 < impl> SOMEONE _SHOOT_ ME
06:02  * Wombert packs a gun
06:03  * JamieWolf shots impl
06:03 < Wombert> where the hell did I put the full metal jacket ammo
06:03  * JamieWolf misses ... too bad ;)
06:03 < Wombert> aaaaah there it is
06:03  * Wombert loads a clip
06:03  * Wombert aims for the arse
06:03 < Wombert> you still doing perl mate?
06:03 < Wombert> I'll have to shoot you
06:03 < Wombert> or kill a kitten
06:03 < Wombert> you decide
06:04 < impl> my $nul = shift; @_ ? ($_->{'opt'} = shift) : $_->{'opt'};
06:04 < MrJeep> wombert, you said something about "NIH" syndrome
06:04 < MrJeep> i look at the wikipedia definition
06:05 < MrJeep> sounds like the NIH def is more proper for the invented here def.
06:05 < MrJeep> there is something wrong ?
06:05 < Wombert> "NIH syndrome" means that people build their own stuff just to have their own stuff
06:05 < Wombert> because they don't want to use existing solutions
06:06 < Wombert> think about a project leader at ACME Inc
06:06 < impl> Maybe all the existing solutions are written in Perl
06:06 < Wombert> a smart coder walks up to him and says "hey for that upcoming project, I found a nice framework, Agavi!"
06:06 < MrJeep> yeah this is what the def says
06:06 < Wombert> and the project manager will say "mmmh no that was Not Invented Here, we'll build our own"
06:06 < Wombert> because he is a pathetic moron
06:06 < Wombert> and will, hopefully, get fired
06:06 < MrJeep> ahh in that sense!
06:07 < Wombert> yep
06:07 < Wombert> :)
06:07 < MrJeep> now I understand :D, thnx
06:07 < MrJeep> well, now I'll go to sleep
06:07 < MrJeep> it's 11:07 here ;P
06:07 < Wombert> oO
06:07 < MrJeep> not that late but i'm tired
06:07 < Wombert> heh
06:07 < MrJeep> so gnight everyone!
06:07 < Wombert> good night
06:07 < JamieWolf> good night
06:08 < Wombert> so, impl, what about that perl thing
06:08 < JamieWolf> think i'll get some sleep too ...
06:08  * Wombert removes the tips from the bullets
06:08 < Wombert> this will hurt, mind you
06:08 < impl> Wombert: 'tis called SlimServer
06:08 < impl> and it's not pretty
06:08 < Wombert> I'm counting down from three
06:08 < Wombert> then, I'll shoot
06:09 < Wombert> or kill a kitten
06:09 < Wombert> you decide
06:09 < impl> I have a quote about kittens
06:09 < impl> <+Shadda> Everytime a script written in 1995 loses compatibility, a Derick kills a kitten <+nforbes> Which is good. We have too many fucking kittens anyway.
06:09 < impl> However, I'd prefer you shoot me
06:09 < Wombert> right
06:09 < Wombert> I finished counting anyway
06:09  * Wombert aims
06:09  * Wombert shoots
06:10  * impl dies.
06:10 < Wombert> you still there?
06:10  * Wombert shoots again
06:10 < Wombert> aaah that serves you right
06:14 < Wombert> http://hello.eboy.com/eboy/product-detail/?token=FOO&#38;pic=0&%2338;
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08:54 < v-dogg> huomenta
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11:27 < Whisller> Hi
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16:44 < MrJeep> allready up !
16:44 < MrJeep> well, i guess it'S 4 pm
16:44 < v-dogg> almost 5 pm
16:46 < MrJeep> lol
17:09 < Wombert> 4pm!
17:10 < v-dogg> weirdo
17:18 < Wombert> :<
17:19 < v-dogg> need a hug?-)
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17:22 < Wombert> :D
17:23 < Wombert> not necessary
17:23 < Wombert> I live in the cooler time zone
17:23 < Wombert> if any, then you need one
17:23  * Wombert hugs v-dogg 
17:23 < v-dogg> :p
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18:20 < CIA-11> david * r1409 /branches/0.11/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:20 < CIA-11> added 'store_calls' configuration parameter to AgaviGettextTranslator that
18:20 < CIA-11> allows to set a base directory to which _() (and thus __()) calls will be
18:20 < CIA-11> 'logged' so they can be parsed by xgettext. will just append, so items will be
18:20 < CIA-11> duplicate over time. xgettext has an option to filter these out. will
18:20 < CIA-11> automatically create one file per domain since most xgettext implementations
18:20 < CIA-11> cannot detect domains from dgettext calls. the sample app writes to the cache
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19:34 < Wombert> Arme[N]: ping
19:56 < Arme[N]> Wombert: pong
20:35 < Wombert> is the date and time information in the sample app displayed correctly?
20:35 < Wombert> for rtl
20:45 < Arme[N]> Wombert: let me see....
20:45 < Arme[N]> Wombert: from trunk or branch?
20:45 < Wombert> 0.11 branch
20:46 < Arme[N]> okey letmesee
20:49 < Arme[N]> hmm I havn't installed PHP5 in this box, it will take several minutes, please wait
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21:00 < Arme[N]> Wombert: no
21:00 < Arme[N]> Wombert: position of time is wrong
21:01 < Arme[N]> it should be at left side
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21:11 < Arme[N]> Wombert: http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=35n0v90
21:26 < Wombert> k
21:26 < Wombert> I gotta runnow
21:26 < Wombert> let's look into thgat tomorrow
21:27 < Arme[N]> Wombert: :)
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00:45 < Whisller> hi
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06:26 < CIA-11> david * r1410 /branches/0.11/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
06:26 < CIA-11> implemented options 'scheme', 'host', 'port', 'authority' and 'fragment' for
06:26 < CIA-11> WebRouting::gen(). For example, pass array('scheme' => 'https') and you'll get a
06:26 < CIA-11> https:// url. It tries to be as smart as possible about omitting ports etc. As a
06:26 < CIA-11> rule of thumb, if you link to some external stuff, use 'authority'. If you want
06:26 < CIA-11> to redirect to another internal site, use 'host', because that will leave some
06:26 < CIA-11> non-standard port (e.g. 81) in place. 'fragment' is for the fragment identifier
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10:11 < v-dogg> huomenta
10:12 < v-dogg> time to learn agavi's i18n... 
10:12 < v-dogg> anyone awake to help me?-)
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11:23 < v-dogg> I seriously need help with this :)
11:29 < kaos> yup
11:29 < kaos> v-dogg: i'm here to your rescue :D
11:30 < v-dogg> \o/
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11:30 < v-dogg> I took routing (with the callback) from the sample app
11:31 < v-dogg> I have fi_FI and sv_SE locales defined in transalation.xml
11:31 < v-dogg> default_locale="fi_FI@currency=EUR
11:32 < v-dogg> and output_types.xml, i18n : <parameter name="mode">postfix</parameter><parameter name="separator">.</parameter>
11:33 < v-dogg> transalation.xml defines gettexttranslator but I don't need that (for now), can I do this without translator?
11:33 < v-dogg> using only localized templates?
11:33 < kaos> hmm, yes
11:33 < kaos> but i'm not sure right now if we allow leaving the translator out
11:36 < v-dogg> seems to work
11:36 < v-dogg> but now
11:37 < v-dogg> localhost/ works
11:37 < v-dogg> localhost/fi returns 404
11:37 < v-dogg> and it doesn't even find the localized 404
11:38 < kaos> hm
11:41 < kaos> have you enabled use_translation in the config ? ;)
11:41 < v-dogg> yes :)
11:42 < kaos> ah
11:42 < v-dogg> IndexSuccess.fi.php wouldn't work otherwise
11:42 < kaos> i think i see the problem
11:43 < kaos> omg, all that text is so blurry *g*
11:43 < kaos> i really should sleep now i think
11:43 < v-dogg> nah, no you shouldn't
11:43 < kaos> *g*
11:44 < kaos> hmmm
11:46 < v-dogg> I got it
11:46 < kaos> what was it ?
11:46 < kaos> (and i had just created a new project to test :)
11:47 < v-dogg> pattern="/({locale: ..." cut="true" cut the slash too
11:47 < v-dogg> so pattern="^/$" didn't match
11:47 < v-dogg> <route pattern="^$" module="%actions.default_module%" action="%actions.default_action%" />
11:47 < v-dogg> works
11:48 < kaos> still doesn't explain why the 404 view hasn't selected the right template
11:48 < v-dogg> true
11:50 < kaos> how did you name your files ?
11:51 < kaos> (because the system itself should work, as its used in the sampleapp)
11:51 < v-dogg> Error404Success.fi.php
11:52 < v-dogg> on 404 AgaviRenderer::preRenderCheck doesn't even try to find anything else than Error404Success.php
11:54 < kaos> well, i think you need to update then
11:54 < v-dogg> ?
11:54 < kaos> you using the latest svn version ?
11:54 < v-dogg> yep, 1410 exported this morning
11:56 < kaos> hmm, the code is there http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/0.11/src/renderer/AgaviRenderer.class.php#L315
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11:56 < kaos> and when i try it with the sample app it works
11:58 < v-dogg> here too...
11:58 < kaos> strange
12:05 < kaos> but i'm really in my bed now, awake way to long now \o/
12:05 < kaos> sorry v-dogg :/
12:05 < v-dogg> no problem
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12:29 < codecop> strange, why when i try to use $controller->forward('Default', 'Index'); i got exception: 
12:29 < codecop> 			For security reasons, Request Parameters cannot be acces.......
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15:11 < digitarald> codecop?
15:11 < v-dogg> codecop: you are not supposed to use that
15:12 < v-dogg> you forward by returning array('MyModule', 'MyAction') from the view::execute
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15:46 < codecop> digitarald, v-dogg now i see thanx ( in mojavi was forward )
15:46 < v-dogg> yep
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15:56 < Wombert> v-dogg: you gotta tell the renderer that you want to use localized templates
15:57 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/0.11/samples/app/config/output_types.xml#L31
15:57 < digitarald> u can even return the forward array in actions ... ;)
15:57 < Wombert> no!
16:06 < foresth> Wombert, how is it going with the new webpage? :)
16:06 < Wombert> haven't heard from the designer ;) he's busy ;)
16:06 < Wombert> we'll have to wait :)
16:11 < v-dogg> Wombert: I have and it works, I just (a) messed up routing.xml and (b) didn't think straight
16:12 < v-dogg> localhost/fi ofcourse doesn't work, but localhost/fi/ works
16:12 < Wombert> yeah that's a BIT of an issue unfortunately
16:12 < Wombert> but not really anything we can do about it
16:13 < v-dogg> doesn't bother me 
16:13 < v-dogg> but now I'm trying to figure out simple translator
16:14 < Wombert> need help?
16:14 < Wombert> put a parameter with a domain name
16:14 < Wombert> in that, one param for each locale
16:14 < v-dogg> according to my var_dumps my translation.xml is almost correct
16:15 < Wombert> in that, <parameter name="text to translate">translated version</parameter>
16:15 < Wombert> or
16:15 < Wombert> <parameter>
16:15 < Wombert>   <parameter name="from">text to translate</parameter>
16:15 < Wombert>   <parameter name="to">translated version</parameter>
16:15 < Wombert> </parameter>
16:15 < v-dogg> I'm not sure I understand domains
16:16 < Wombert> <translator domain="foo">
16:17 < Wombert>   <message_translator class="AgaviSimpleTranslator">
16:17 < Wombert>     <parameter name="domainname">
16:17 < Wombert>        <parameter name="fi">
16:17 < Wombert>          <parameter name="hello">houmenta</parameter>
16:17 < Wombert> $tm->_('hello', 'foo.domainname');
16:17 < Wombert> these "inner" domains are just for the translators to determine where to pull the info from
16:18 < Wombert> for instance for the gettext translator, domainname would be pulled from domainname/fi.po
16:18 < Wombert> btw you can safely use "fi" even though you defined fi_FI
16:18 < Wombert> note that you may omit <parameters> and other plural tags since mmmh a couple of days ago
16:18 < Wombert> makes that stuff a little less painful
16:18 < Wombert> the simpletranslator is jus tfor quick prototyping
16:19 < Wombert> or for translating date format defintions
16:19 < v-dogg> yey \o/ it works
16:23 < codecop> what the main things to do to use translators ? in short
16:25 < v-dogg> use_transalation=true (settings.xml), copy translation.xml from the sample app 
16:25 < v-dogg> and transalate :)
16:25 < codecop> :)
16:26 < digitarald> Wombert, fpf does not refill a selectbox right ... everything is right except this selectbox. Maybe its a problem with type (string/integer)?
16:26 < Wombert> everything arrives as strings at the client
16:26 < Wombert> reproducible test case please
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16:27 < digitarald> mmhh ... i'll try a workaround first, don't have much time now
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16:27 < Wombert> ...
16:27 < Wombert> if you don't want me to go totally beserk
16:28 < Wombert> you please please please with a sugar topping better create a damn test case for me
16:28 < Wombert> because your workarounds don't help ANYONE
16:28 < Wombert> and a test case takes no more than two minutes
16:28 < Wombert> you create one html file I can use as a template
16:28 < Wombert> and one line of code that populates data
16:28 < Wombert> that's all I need
16:28 < Wombert> ...
16:28 < digitarald> i know ... only my clients ;) ... if it works i know the problem and will create a test case ... i did say no to a test case 
16:29 < digitarald> i did NOT say no .. ups
16:29 < Wombert> yes, yes, yes
16:29 < Wombert> and still
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16:29 < Wombert> in case of doubt it's one select box I can throw into sample app's LoginInput.php
16:31 < digitarald> problem is: the given population value is an integer value (0, 1, 2 or 3 ;) ). when i cast it first to a string its ok and the selectbox is populated right
16:32 < Wombert> yeah
16:32 < digitarald> $option->getAttribute('value') === $value
16:32 < Wombert> there was some reason why this wasn't possible
16:32 < Wombert> hmm
16:32 < digitarald> thats it
16:32 < Wombert> yes but that is there for a reason
16:32 < Wombert> I just don't remember which
16:32 < digitarald> fpf#358
16:33 < Wombert> probably <option value=""> would be popuated with integer 0
16:33 < Wombert> -with+for
16:33 < digitarald> right ... then maybe a  is_numeric check?
16:34 < Wombert> I'll probably cast the value to a string where feasible
16:34 < toby_swe[a]> Hi all!
16:36 < toby_swe[a]> I have an action where I have specified <validators method="write"> in the corresponding validation file, but it seems that agavi tries to validate a read request anyway
16:36 < Wombert> validate, or validate using the validators defined in that block?
16:37 < toby_swe[a]> I get this: "Warning: preg_match() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given in /home/sahlmano/lib/agavi_trunk/src/validator/AgaviDateValidator.class.php on line 56", and then an Exception
16:37 < Wombert> uh wtf
16:37 < Wombert> can you create an action and a validation xml that reproduces the issue?
16:37 < Wombert> that would be awesome
16:38 < toby_swe[a]> will try
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16:55 < toby_swe[a]> You there WOmbert?
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16:55 < v-dogg> wombiiieeee
16:55 < v-dogg> toby_swe[a]: he answers faster if you poke him a bit
16:55  * v-dogg pokes Wombert 
16:55 < v-dogg> your turn
16:56 < toby_swe[a]> v-dogg, how do I do that (explain it as if to a very small child)
16:56 < v-dogg> how do I make a link to the current page but different locale
16:57 < v-dogg> toby_swe[a]: /me pokes Wombert 
16:57 < Wombert> $r->gen(true, array('localeparamname' => 'de'));
16:58 < Wombert> and since yesterday you could also do
16:58 < Wombert> $r->gen(true, array('localeparamname' => 'de'), array('scheme' => 'https'));
16:58 < Wombert> :D
16:59 < v-dogg> \o\ /o/
16:59 < toby_swe[a]> Wombert, it seems I get that error when executeRead() returns to an inputView
17:00 < toby_swe[a]> not if I just use getDefaultViewName() to go to an input view on read request
17:01  * v-dogg slaps Wombert 
17:01 < v-dogg> $r->gen(null, ...)
17:01 < Wombert> yeah whatever ^^
17:01 < v-dogg> :p
17:02 < Wombert> toby_swe[a]: yeah because if you have executeRead(), it tries to run validation
17:02 < Wombert> but shouldn't do anything since your validators are defined for write...
17:02 < toby_swe[a]> ok
17:06 < toby_swe[a]> do you want some files to look at or something?
17:18 < Wombert> maybe later
17:18 < Wombert> I gotta run now :)
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18:24 < Whisller> hi :)
18:24 < codecop> hi
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22:03 < Whisller> is posible use a $r->gen in View?
22:04 < digitarald> of course
22:05 < digitarald> $this->getContext()->getRouting()->gen()
22:05 < Whisller> o thanks :)
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22:35 < v-dogg> Wombert \o/
22:38 < v-dogg> I'm thinking about writing a CSV translator (or something similar but so easy that even my missus can translate simple things like menu items and such)
22:39 < v-dogg> poEdit + compiling libraries is a bit out of her league :)
22:40 < v-dogg> functionality would be more or less that of AgaviSimpleTranslator but simpler structure and editing
22:45 < v-dogg> ideas, comments?
22:58 < v-dogg> to bed -> 
22:58 < v-dogg> (you can still comment, I'll read it tomorrow :)
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23:08 < Wombert> re
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01:25 < Whisller> my first page when i used a agavi sennik.prosie.eu ;) not interesting but this site was only for education :]
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09:56 < ttj> Hmm...
09:57 < v-dogg> huomenta
10:01 < ttj> Huomen.
10:01 < v-dogg> what's up
10:01 < ttj> Fighting with routing.
10:02 < ttj> <route name="login" pattern="/login" module="%actions.login_module%" action="%actions.login_action%" />
10:02 < ttj> That doesn't work.
10:02 < ttj> It works if I change it to pattern="login".
10:05 < ttj> The address I have is in the format http://foo.example.org/bar/login, where /bar is the root if the agavi app.
10:05 < ttj> Any ideas?
10:06 < ttj> Humhum.
10:08 < v-dogg> hmm...
10:08 < v-dogg> can you paste your routing.xml (or at least all routes above that one)
10:09 < ttj> Aha!
10:09 < ttj> Interesting, .htaccess seems to have changed.
10:09 < ttj> This could solve it.
10:10 < v-dogg> you've updated agavi?
10:10 < v-dogg> routing was changed a bit somewhere along the way
10:10 < ttj> Yeah, I set up RC1 last week.
10:10 < digitarald> is it planned to allow 'scheme' option in routing.xml?
10:10 < ttj> The previous version was from a few months back, since I got fed up with everything changing constantly. :P
10:11 < v-dogg> digitarald: it's there already
10:11 < digitarald> ttj: don't give up at every breaking change ;)
10:11 < digitarald> ok, didn't see it but i'll take a deeper look
10:11 < v-dogg> since last week
10:11 < ttj> digitarald: Well, when you have a bunch of code already written and have to ship ~immediately, you baseline some version and use that. ;-)
10:12 < v-dogg> yeah :)
10:12 < v-dogg> and then you reserve enough time to update :)
10:12 < ttj> Yeah, that's why the box over there still runs the old version.
10:12 < digitarald> v-dogg: scheme as parameter?
10:12 < v-dogg> updating on every little change is too much work
10:12 < ttj> And I'm playing with the development stuff right now.
10:12 < v-dogg> digitarald: yes, for gen()
10:13 < ttj> Asides from the routing thing, everything seems to pretty much work as it should.
10:13 < digitarald> i ment routing.xml ... define standard options like https for backend-routes in routing.xml
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10:19 < v-dogg> digitarald: ah, ok
10:20 < v-dogg> don't know about that
10:20 < v-dogg> could you leave that to mod_rewrite?
10:21 < v-dogg> ie. redirect to https if someone tries to use http
10:39 < digitarald> defining it in routing.xml would be much easier, backend routes have no special directory and anything like that
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12:34 < splatch`> hello
12:36 < v-dogg> hi
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12:42 < Whisller> hi :]
12:46 < v-dogg> what's up
12:52 < Whisller> Good weather ;)
13:11 < v-dogg> not here :I
13:11 < v-dogg> it's been raining non-stop for several weeks
13:12 < v-dogg> and it's bloody december already, it should be -5C and snowing
13:17 < Whisller> in my city is sunny
13:17 < Whisller> but i want snow :/
13:18 < Whisller> tomorrow again will be a cloudy weather :/
13:20 < Whisller> but i prefer summer
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14:00 < luke`> is propel.phpdb.org down?
14:01 < v-dogg> apparently
14:02 < v-dogg> I've been trying to access it since morning
14:02 < luke`> damn
14:09 < v-dogg> something particular you needed?
14:10 < luke`> need to or a bunch of criteria's
14:12 < luke`> something to the effect of
14:13 < luke`> select id from table where name like '%foo%' or address like '%bar%' or company like '%baz%'
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14:16 < v-dogg> doesn't simple $criteria->addOr(col, value, Criteria::LIKE); do that?
14:17 < v-dogg> morning Wombert 
14:17 < luke`> let me try that
14:17 < luke`> hey Wombert 
14:30 < Wombert> ttj: routing working now?
14:30 < Wombert> you really should use the latest version there because only that works on all platforms
14:31 < Wombert> ttj: btw you should always anchor routes
14:31 < Wombert> pattern="^/login" etc
14:32 < Wombert> digitarald: you can define a default scheme for urls
14:32 < Wombert> but
14:32 < Wombert> that is nonsense
14:32 < Wombert> just set a base href...
14:35 < digitarald> i want to define a default scheme for some routes in the xml, thats not possible?
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14:37 < Wombert> how would that be possible
14:37 < Wombert> no it's not
14:37 < Wombert> a base href would be enough wouldn't it
14:41 < v-dogg> I think he want's to have links from a page in http://www.foo.com/public to https://www.foo.com/private
14:41 < v-dogg> -'
15:07 < Wombert> yeah I know
15:08 < Wombert> and he can use the options param for that
15:09 < digitarald> ok
15:19 < v-dogg> digitarald: and there's always the possibility to extend routing and make your gens() method or whatever
15:20 < v-dogg> a bit hacky perhaps but saves a few character when generating urls
15:23 < ttj> Wombert: Yeah. I just took the carots away when I was trying to figure out why routing was broken. :-)
15:23 < digitarald> right
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16:16 < Wombert> I still don't get it
16:17 < Wombert> set a base href with https:// and the problem is gone anyway!?
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17:01 < MrJeep> Hey wombert
17:01 < Wombert> hi
17:01 < MrJeep> how are you &
17:04 < MrJeep> well, last week I said I had some problem with extending JS class with prototype
17:04 < MrJeep> I made a simple example
17:04 < MrJeep> once pastebin is ready I'll let you look at it
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17:15 < MrJeep> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9f6djj16.html
17:15 < MrJeep> test is an instance of TigerTest1
17:16 < MrJeep> however, is initialize methods is the TigerTest3 initialize method
17:21 < Wombert> Object.extend(Object.extend(TigerTest2.prototype, TigerTest1.prototype), {
17:21 < Wombert> / code
17:21 < Wombert> }
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17:22 < Wombert> after TigerTest2 = Class.create();
17:22 < MrJeep> ok thnx I'll try that
17:22 < MrJeep> The proper way to extends class with prototype is a little blury
17:25 < MrJeep> well, it's working, thnx
17:25 < digitarald> try mootools, based on Base.js, class handling and extending is 200% better
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17:26 < MrJeep> well, I'll take a look at it
17:27 < digitarald> http://dev.mootools.net is the develepment svn for 1.0. there are some test cases
17:27 < MrJeep> http://wiki.mootools.net/documentation/gettingstarted <-- you are damn right
17:30 < digitarald> very neat and much smaller then proto. real good architecture which allows very small code-size
18:14 < MrJeep> jeez, I have the same problem with prototype
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18:14 < MrJeep> even with thatObject.extend(Object.extend(TigerTest2.prototype, TigerTest1.prototype), {
18:14 < MrJeep> i guess I'll give mootools a try
18:21 < MrJeep> with class extending, what about the parent constructor ?
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18:35 < toby_swe[a]> Hi, 
18:37 < toby_swe[a]> I want all times and dates to be dsiplayed in my local timezone, no matter what locale is used, can I set some kind of default timezone somewhere?
18:39 < kaos> yes
18:39 < kaos> use <available_translators default_timezone="...">
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22:25 < digitarald> validator question :)
22:25 < digitarald> who wants to answer :)
22:26 < Wombert> may I quote from the topic
22:26 < Wombert> "Have a question? Just ask it, and wait patiently, because patience is the key to happiness"
22:26 < Wombert> :p
22:27 < digitarald> if u could see how happy i am that u want to answer my question ;)
22:29 < Wombert> I just looked at IRC by accident
22:29 < Wombert> as most people, I don't check it regularly
22:29 < digitarald> fileupload validation ... how can i check if an optional file upload is validated?
22:30 < digitarald> they don't appear in the parameterholder
22:31 < digitarald> only if i upload an invalid file (no image in this case) the validation fails
22:32 < digitarald> if i don't upload a file no errors is thrown and i can't check in the action if something is uploaded or not
22:32 < Wombert> yep
22:32 < Wombert> I know
22:32 < Wombert> I talked about this to kaos the other day
22:33 < Wombert> I thought about some kind of flag you can specify that can then be accessed
22:33 < Wombert> to check whether or not a validator succeeded
22:33 < Wombert> that's important for severity=none etc
22:33 < Wombert> however, this is not trivial
22:34 < digitarald> maybe check the provides that where ... provided :D
22:35 < digitarald> -h
22:37 < digitarald> another solution for checking that now? checking for an succeded upload? req->getFileError?
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22:56 < toby_swe[a]> still having a bit of trouble with timezones. Using routing based on sample app to change language and do translations between dateformats etc. which works fine. But I only want language to change, not the actual displayed times. don't now how to get it to work :(
22:58 < toby_swe[a]> e.g. I want English speaking people living in Sweden to view the site in English, but still see the Swedish times displayed. Now I get all times like CET-1 hour when i view English pages...
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23:24 < Wombert> toby_swe[a]: no problem
23:25 < Wombert> or maybe it is a problem?
23:25 < Wombert> :p
23:25 < Wombert> hmm
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00:13 < msrgi> hi
00:13 < msrgi> anybody around?
00:14 < msrgi> just wanted to say, that the example app in the 0.11RC has got a bug
00:14 < msrgi> http://www.mail-archive.com/commits@lists.agavi.org/msg00121.html
00:15 < msrgi> or something similar
00:15 < msrgi> cu
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05:07 < Wombert> mmmh ffs
05:07 < Wombert> can't sleep :<
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08:07 < v-dogg> huomenta
08:08 < ttj> Huomen.
08:08 < v-dogg> what's up
08:09 < ttj> Not much. Typing up some tagging stuff. You?
08:09 < v-dogg> just got to the office
08:10 < v-dogg> time to make some coffee
08:10 < ttj> :-)
08:10 < ttj> I switched from coffee to tea a while back.
08:11 < ttj> Although now that I've been drinking excessive amounts of tea, I might as well switch back to coffee... :D
08:11 < v-dogg> I think today is going to finally be the svn-up-svn.agavi.org  day
08:11 < v-dogg> heh
08:12 < ttj> svn-up-svn?
08:12 < v-dogg> svn up svn.agavi.org
08:13 < ttj> Ah. I should defintately switch back to coffee. :D
08:13 < ttj> See? Can't even type.
08:15 < v-dogg> I'm using #1187 now and I don't use i18n so updating shouldn't break my project too badly
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08:19 < ttj> Emphasis on "shouldn't". :-)
08:19 < v-dogg> :p
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08:21 < foresth> hi
08:22 < ttj> Heya.
08:23 < v-dogg> loggin classes renamed, validator severitys and modes changed...
08:23 < v-dogg> that's all I can find that affects my project
08:24 < v-dogg> s/ys/ies/
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10:53 < splatch`> oi!
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13:02 < luke`_> the propel guys should send their website for a massage too 
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14:15 < Whisller> hi :)
14:16 < ttj> Hey.
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14:20 < Whisller> Ok, i have eclipse. Now i time for testing :)
14:21 < Whisller> *it's
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14:48 < toby_swe[a]> is there any calendar method to compute difference between two dates without moving the calendar forward as in fieldDifference()
14:55 < v-dogg> somebody asked that very same question about a week ago
14:56 < v-dogg> but I don't remember what kaos answered :)
15:02 < toby_swe[a]> ok, I'll have a look in the logs. np.
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16:29 < MrJeep> hi
16:30 < MrJeep> it is possible to use custom variables in the autoload config file ?
16:30 < MrJeep> like %myconfig.my_custom_dir%
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16:35 < v-dogg> MrJeep: yes (I think so)
16:36 < v-dogg> actually I am pretty sure (I used to use them myself)
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16:41 < MrJeep> well
16:41 < MrJeep> Configuration file "D:/Web/Project/Open/Tiger/Development/webapp/config/autoload.xml" specifies class "MjaxAction" with nonexistent or unreadable file "D:\Web\Project\Open\Tiger\Development\webapp/%mjax.lib_dir%/mjax/action/MjaxAction.class.php" in D:\Web\Project\Sources\Agavi\src\core\Agavi.class.php on line 61
16:41 < MrJeep> maybe I'm missing something
16:41 < MrJeep> the variable is not converted
16:43 < v-dogg> is it defined before autoload.xml is  parsed?
16:43 < v-dogg> I bet it isn't :)
16:43 < MrJeep> just after Agavi::bootstrap
16:43 < Wombert> which is too late
16:43 < v-dogg> yep
16:43 < MrJeep> before then ?
16:44 < v-dogg> yep
16:44 < MrJeep> lol
16:44 < MrJeep> before bootstrap, there is no autoloading... so : require AgaviConfigCache::checkConfig(AgaviConfig::get('core.config_dir') . '/mjax/mjax.xml');
16:44 < MrJeep> AgaviConfigCache does not exists
16:45 < Wombert> ehm
16:45 < Wombert> no
16:45  * Wombert sighs
16:45 < MrJeep> :S
16:45 < Wombert> AgaviConfig::set('mjax.lib_dir', '/path/blah/');
16:45 < Wombert> Agavi::bootstrap();
16:45 < Wombert> but
16:45  * MrJeep look like a retard sonce again
16:45 < Wombert> but
16:45 < Wombert> but
16:45 < Wombert> but
16:45 < Wombert> !
16:45 < MrJeep> yes
16:45 < MrJeep> but :)
16:45 < Wombert> you shouldn't do it that way
16:45 < Wombert> put stuff like that into app/lib/
16:46 < Wombert> then %core.lib_dir%/mjax/mjax.php
16:46 < Wombert> btw
16:46 < Wombert> what does mjax do
16:46 < MrJeep> mjax = mrjeep agavi extension ;P
16:46 < MrJeep> my personal lib for agavi
16:46 < MrJeep> sounds cool ;P
16:46 < MrJeep> however, I use this lib on every project
16:47 < MrJeep> and I wanted to put it on a global folder
16:47 < MrJeep> just like the agavi src folder
16:47 < Wombert> how about adding that to your include path
16:47 < Wombert> autoload supports that, too, of course :)
16:47 < MrJeep> could be an idea
16:48 < digitarald> or change your include pathes in your index.php
16:48 < Wombert> config.php would be the better place actually
16:49 < MrJeep> the "include_path" looks for subdirectory ?
16:50 < MrJeep> lets say my incpath is c:\lib
16:50 < MrJeep> and I have files ins c:\lib\parser c:\lib\xml
16:50 < MrJeep> does it look into the sub-folders ?
16:51 < v-dogg> no
16:52 < digitarald> just add them both
16:52 < Wombert> no
16:52 < v-dogg> or use path when you include/autoload
16:52 < Wombert> yes
16:52 < Wombert> that's how you use include paths
16:54 < MrJeep> ok, I guess there is a variable for the include path ?
16:54 < MrJeep> something similair to %core.lib_dir% ?
16:54 < MrJeep> hum
16:54 < MrJeep> I could simply set a variable AgaviConfig::set('core.app_dir', dirname(__FILE__));
16:54 < MrJeep> like this in config.php
16:57 < Wombert> no no no no no
16:57 < MrJeep> why not ?
16:57 < Wombert> http://de.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.include-path
16:58 < MrJeep> I know what include path is
16:58 < MrJeep> but I can't see the big difference between adding an include path to my lib directory and setting an Agavi config var 
17:01 < Wombert> let's say you package your stuff like
17:01 < Wombert> mylib/mylib.class.php
17:01 < Wombert> mylib/mylibutil.class.php
17:01 < Wombert> with include path, you can include the second file in the first one
17:07 < MrJeep> ok, well, I'll think about it
17:07 < MrJeep> is there documentation online about the compile.xml file ?
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17:31 < kaos> what would you need documented there ? :)
17:31 < kaos> its simple
17:32 < kaos> ... <compiles><compile>your_file</compile></compiles> ...
17:43 < MrJeep> well, I was wondering if it was possible to compile some .js file into a big .js file ...
17:43 < MrJeep> using agavi
17:48 < Wombert> eremit_: 
17:48 < Wombert> ping
17:48 < Wombert> need you
17:48 < Wombert> urgent
17:48 < eremit_> aye? 
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17:48 < Wombert> query
18:03 < codecop> how to use private parameters in agavi, it was in mojavi $request->setAttribute() not setParameter()?
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18:22 < digitarald> $this->getContext()->getRequest()->setAttribute(...);
18:22 < digitarald> nearly the same like in mojavi
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18:32 < Wombert> codecop: what do you mean, private parameters?
18:49 < codecop> when this parameters imposible to modify frow GET or POST
18:51 < Wombert> I don't get it
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18:54 < codecop> in mojavi u remember request->getParameter(ttt,123)? and when user types url like www....index.php?ttt=111 it will be in getParameter(ttt) == 111, i want to sisable this possibility or this is disabled by strict routing?
18:54 < codecop> disable*
18:58 < codecop> if user gueses my parameter name in class
18:59 < Wombert> ah
18:59 < Wombert> if you set validation mode to strict or to conditional
18:59 < Wombert> only those parameters that you validated will be available
18:59 < Wombert> BUT
19:00 < Wombert> why do you use request params?
19:00 < Wombert> use request attributes for that!
19:00 < Wombert> params are ONLY for incoming request variables
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19:02 < codecop> where to set strict or conditional ?
19:03 < Wombert> factories.xml
19:03 < Wombert> see sample app
19:03 < Wombert> but still
19:03 < Wombert> I think you're doing something wrong there
19:03 < Wombert> why do you use request params
19:03 < codecop> this request->set/getparams was eg about mojavi
19:05 < Wombert> okay
19:05 < Wombert> uhm
19:05 < Wombert> tell me what you're trying to do please :)
19:05 < codecop> ;)
19:09 < codecop> just that GetCountUsers($p->getParameter('login'), $p->getParameter('passw'));
19:09 < codecop> but i was intresting how to make parameters or atributes private from get and post
19:21 < Wombert> I'm afraid I still don't understand :(
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22:44 < v-dogg> what's the easiest way to find the last day of the current month?
22:45 < v-dogg> or, actually, the last day of any month
23:02 < kaos> day of week (as in monday, tuesday, ...) or the day in the month ?
23:04 < v-dogg> day in the month
23:04 < v-dogg> ie. 28, 30 or 31 (normally)
23:04 < kaos> yeah
23:04 < kaos> AgaviCalendarGrego::monthLength($year, $month)
23:05 < kaos> while month is 0 indexed
23:05 < kaos> and you can use the constants in AgaviDateDefinitions
23:05 < v-dogg> $today = getdate(); $last = mktime(0, 0, 0, $today['mon'], idate('t'), $today['year']);
23:05 < v-dogg> :)
23:05 < v-dogg> thanks :)
23:06 < kaos> $today = getdate(); $last = mktime(0, 0, 0, $today['mon'], idate('t'), $today['year']); <-- if i would read that code i would have NO clue what it does :p
23:08 < v-dogg> :D
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09:47 < v-dogg> huomenta
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12:31 < Whisller> hi
12:31 < Whisller> :]
12:35 < ttj> Hi.
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12:47 < digitarald> when i set setHttpStatusCode and i only want to send this code, no content ... what do i have to do?
12:47 < digitarald> return $this->response->send(); ?
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13:29 < digitarald> found a bug in agavifileloggerappender
13:29 < digitarald> what a name :D
13:30 < digitarald> shutdown is called twice and after fclose($this->handle) should be $this->handle = null;
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16:00 < MrJeep> hi
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16:36 < digitarald> Wombert? *ping*
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16:57 < digitarald|> How can i put the SessionId in the routing.xml?
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17:12 < toby_swe[a]> Hi, what's the use of dependencies for validators? How do they work?
17:13 < digitarald|> thats easy ...
17:14 < digitarald|> just provides="x" in one and then depend="x" in the one that depends on the other validator
17:14 < digitarald|> depends="x" ...
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17:17 < toby_swe[a]> so if I want validator a to be evaluated if and only if validator b evaluates to true, then I write something like <validator name=a depends=x>, <validator name=b provides=x>, is that how they work?
17:21 < Wombert> re
17:30 < Wombert> toby_swe[a]: yep
17:31 < ttj> Heya.
17:31 < Wombert> digitarald|: do you mean you want to have the SID in the url when generating URLs?
17:31 < toby_swe[a]> thanks, then I was right :)
17:31 < Wombert> toby_swe[a]: at least I hope it works that way
17:32 < toby_swe[a]> well, it seems to, after a quick test now
17:32 < Wombert> digitarald|: you can either enable session.use_trans_sid
17:32 < Wombert> but that's uncool
17:33 < Wombert> or you use the use_trans_sid option for gen()
17:33 < Wombert> $r->gen('routename', array($params), array('use_trans_sid' => true));
17:33 < Wombert> remember that you can change the default options in the factories configuration
17:41 < digitarald|> and how to add the trans_id optional to the routing.xml?
17:41 < digitarald|> <route name="SID" pattern="^/({SID:[a-z0-9]{32}})" stop="false" cut="true" imply="true" />
17:44 < Wombert> uhm
17:44 < Wombert> what is the point of that?
17:45 < Wombert> ah
17:45 < Wombert> mh
17:45 < Wombert> you have to write a callback, obviously
17:45 < Wombert> I thought you wanted /foo/bar?PHPSESSID=4aa45c4df4ad4s4c4as4d4sa123231
17:47 < digitarald|> no ... foo.com/19193923472375982375/de/bla
17:47 < Wombert> yeah
17:47 < digitarald|> cooler ;)
17:47 < Wombert> gotta use a callback
17:48 < Wombert> but
17:48 < Wombert> uh uh
17:48 < Wombert> sec
17:49 < Wombert> okay
17:49 < Wombert> so
17:49 < Wombert> you have to configure the storage to not auto start
17:49 < Wombert> then implement both onMatched and onNotMatched
17:49 < Wombert> set the sid
17:49 < Wombert> start the session
17:49 < Wombert> ($storage->startup())
17:49 < Wombert> and in onGenerate, read the SID
17:50 < Wombert> don't forget to handle the case where cookies are used
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17:54 < Wombert> oh wait
17:54 < Wombert> that won't work
17:54 < Wombert> because the user is initialized before that
17:54 < Wombert> and reads from the storage
17:54 < Wombert> mmmh
17:55 < digitarald|> ok ... so the only solution is to append it to the url the standard-way
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17:59 < Wombert> not sure
18:02 < Wombert> btw
18:03 < Wombert> set the response in the status
18:03 < Wombert> err
18:03 < Wombert> set the status in the response
18:03 < Wombert> then don't set any content or define a template
18:03 < Wombert> that's all...
18:03 < Wombert> v-dogg: ping
18:03 < Wombert> need ya mate
18:03 < Wombert> digitarald|: we can look into that problem later
18:12 < digitarald|> thx
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18:53 < v-dogg> Wombert: hey man
18:56 < Wombert> query
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19:52 < Arme[N]> http://jadmadi.net/blog/2006/12/03/you-might-be-a-programmer-if/
19:55 < Arme[N]> 13 and 14 :)
20:03 < Wombert> hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää, v-dogg and ttj :)
20:03 < ttj> Thanks. :-)
20:04 < ttj> Although I'm still reflecting on what I feel about independence. And right now I'm stuck on the problems caused by the nationalistic mindset. :P
20:07 < Arme[N]> hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää!!?? hmm!
20:15 < Wombert> lol
20:16 < Wombert> and I thought the germans had issues when it comes to patriotism ^^
20:19 < digitarald> u had no flag on your car during world championship? ;)
20:19 < Wombert> I did!
20:19 < Wombert> but an australian flag :)
20:21 < digitarald> ... spanish flag for me :D
20:44 < v-dogg> digitarald: have you discovered where the problem is with fileloggerappender?
20:44 < digitarald> yes, like described ...
20:45 < v-dogg> shutdown is called twice?
20:45  * v-dogg scrolls back up
20:46 < digitarald> i'll just added one line that set the handler null
20:47 < digitarald> it's even a more logical line, because every check in the appender checks for null
20:50 < Wombert> _why_ does it call shutdown twive
20:50 < Wombert> twice
20:55 < digitarald> i'll check again ...
20:56 < digitarald> i wondered about an error that was thrown ... fclose tried to close an undefined handler 123.
20:58 < v-dogg> that's weird because I haven't noticed such a problem
21:00 < digitarald> isn't an $this->handle = null in shutdown good beside that weird behaviour?
21:00 < v-dogg> just commiting it
21:00 < Wombert> we should cure the cause, not the symptom
21:02 < digitarald> i'm actually checking again
21:03 < v-dogg> I use rotating appender extensively and I've never seen that happening (rotating appender only extends normal appenders initialize method, everything else is the same)
21:09 < digitarald> i use it too, the rotating appender
21:10 < digitarald> and i log via
21:10 < digitarald> $this->getContext()->getLoggerManager()->log(new AgaviLoggerMessage(...));
21:18 < digitarald> :D ... i have it ...
21:18 < digitarald> it's called ... 3 times ;)
21:19 < digitarald> with the same resource id
21:19 < Wombert> from where
21:19 < digitarald> how can i check in php?
21:20 < digitarald> did too much javascript the last month ...
21:23 < digitarald> from AgaviContext, AgaviLoggerManager, AgaviLogger, AgaviFileLoggerAppender->shutdown()
21:24 < digitarald> i have 3 registered debuggers, debug/default/error, all AgaviRotatingFileLoggerAppender ...
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21:59 < digitarald> so ... problem solved?
21:59 < digitarald> ;)
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23:02 < v-dogg> digitarald: can you show me your logging.xml?
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23:24 < digitarald> k
23:26 < digitarald> http://pastebin.ca/269850
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23:38 < MrJeep> hum
23:38 < MrJeep> I downloaded the last source with svg
23:38 < MrJeep> and i get a parse error
23:38 < MrJeep> Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_SL in D:\Web\Project\Sources\Agavi\src\request\AgaviWebRequest.class.php on line 129
23:38 < MrJeep> and the line 129
23:38 < MrJeep> <<<<<<< .mine
23:38 < MrJeep> 		return $this->getUrlHost() . (($forcePort || ($scheme == 'https' && $port != 443) || ($scheme == 'http' && $port != 80)) ? ':' . $port : '');
23:38 < MrJeep> =======
23:38 < MrJeep> 		return $this->getUrlHost() . ($forcePort || AgaviToolkit::isPortNecessary($scheme, $port) ? ':' . $port : '');
23:38 < MrJeep> >>>>>>> .r1411
23:39 < MrJeep> some >>>>>>>>>.r1411 
23:39 < Wombert> that is a conflict
23:39 < Wombert> "svn revert" that file
23:39 < Wombert> you had local modifications
23:39 < MrJeep> well, I never edited that file 
23:39 < MrJeep> i guess I'll re-download the whole package
23:40 < MrJeep> thnx
23:41 < Wombert> you did!
23:41 < Wombert> because I asked you to
23:41 < Wombert> remember when it used port 80 instead of 81
23:42 < Wombert> as I said, just revert that file and the problem will go away
23:42 < MrJeep> I updated the source a lot of time after editing this file
23:42 < MrJeep> ahh well I thinkg i get it
23:42 < MrJeep> it's ok
23:42 < Wombert> yes but now I modified the same line which caused a collision :)
23:42 < MrJeep> nevermind, once again
23:42 < impl> Wombert: Is there any plan to add support for multiple hostnames in routing?
23:43 < Wombert> there is support in it already
23:43 < Wombert> you can match hostnames
23:43 < impl> Oh, really? D:
23:43 < Wombert> and you can specify a hostname when generating a url
23:43 < impl> How do I miss these things!
23:43 < Wombert> yep
23:43 < Wombert> <:
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09:06 < v-dogg> huomenta
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09:56 < ttj> Huomen.
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12:21 < ttj> Hmm...
12:22 < ttj> If I have a route like <route name="foo" patter="/foo(/{arg1:static})?(/{arg2:\S+})?" module="Foo" action="Bar"></route>.
12:23 < ttj> And then the defaults for both vars are empty, the routing works, except for $r->gen();
12:23 < ttj> If I call $r->gen("foo", array("arg1"=>"static", "arg2"=>"something")), it returns "/foostaticsomething".
12:26 < ttj> Should I perhaps just split that into two routes, the first one with the static arg1 and define it as stopping and then the second one without arg1...
12:32 < ttj> Ok, yeah. That works.
12:35 < digitarald> i have this pattern and it works ... "/iupload/(do:[a-z0-9_-]+)?(/{id:[0-9]+})?"
12:43 < digitarald> v-dogg? *ping*
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14:23 < v-dogg> digitarald: pong
14:24 < digitarald> ;) i "pastebined" the logging.xml yesterday
14:24 < digitarald> did u take a look at it? i saw no problem in it
14:25 < v-dogg> yes, thanks, I had a brief look but I've had such a busy day that I haven't got into sorting it out yet
14:25 < v-dogg> it looks ok
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14:35 < horros> herro
14:36 < v-dogg> hero?
14:36 < v-dogg> he-man?
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15:35 < digitarald> Routing question, anybody here? Why do i have to define 'SID' to use the option use_trans_id
15:35 < digitarald> use_trans_sid
15:37 < v-dogg> to strip it off from the route before other route patterns are checked?
15:38 < v-dogg> ie. if someone clicks www.foo.com/products/123/show/adfe987123fda
15:38 < v-dogg> you want to get rid of the sid before the actualy route is processed
15:38 < v-dogg> just guessing here, I use cookies always :)
15:39 < v-dogg> why do you want to use sid?
15:39 < digitarald> but the session-parameter is defined in factory sessionstorage?
15:40 < digitarald> <parameter name="session_name">SID</parameter>
15:40 < digitarald> i need the session id in my url
15:41 < v-dogg> ah it's a query parameter... hmm... don't see no reason to have routing processing it then
15:41 < digitarald> the SID constant?
15:42 < digitarald> i searched for SID, it's only used in routing in this use_trans_sid check ...?!
15:42 < v-dogg> hmm... I actually don't know how it works, forget everything I said :D
15:42 < v-dogg> erase & rewind :)
15:42 < digitarald> i'll tell wombert what u tell me ;)
15:42 < digitarald> :D
15:43 < v-dogg> he'll read it from the logs anyway
15:43 < digitarald> i think i erase this SID check ... just for testing of course ;)
15:44 < digitarald> first he checks for SID, then he uses session_name() to append the parameter?! ...
15:44 < v-dogg> I can already see how his face gets read and the veins in his forehead start to get bigger and bigger when he reads my advices :p
15:45 < digitarald> :D
15:46  * v-dogg hugs wombie (for the logs :)
15:50 < digitarald> and now i need the solution to put the SID in routing.xml ... but i think that's not possible ...
15:52 < horros> this is confusing... I have three templates and three actions... templates look the same but display slightly different data. do changes in template1, post, use $controller->forward() to get back to the previous page... everything works fine
15:52 < horros> template2, everything works fine.
15:53 < horros> template3... not so. changes are stored in the db, but ff insists on showing the unchanged data
15:53 < horros> :I
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17:33 < CPUnerd> Wombert, can I pm for a sec ?
17:33 < Wombert>  of course
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18:02 < Wombert> !seen horros
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18:02 < Wombert> !hug um
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18:02 < AgaviBot> Wombert: I'm AgaviBot version 0.3, powered by Agavi :) My IRC Bot components and the Web Interface to the Logs share quite some code, thanks to Agavi's flexibility and clean structure!
18:03 < CPUnerd> !seen ' or ''='
18:03 < um> CPUnerd: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
18:03 < AgaviBot> CPUnerd: I'm sorry, but ' never spoke a single word here.
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18:41 < AgaviBot> News from Agavi: Timeline at http://trac.agavi.org/timeline :
18:41 < AgaviBot> 1) http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/361 : Ticket #361 (defect created): setting the base for arguments in file validators doesn't work
18:51 < Arme[N]> !hug Arme[N] 
18:51  * AgaviBot hugs Arme[N]
18:51 < Arme[N]> !hug Wombert 
18:51  * AgaviBot hugs Wombert
18:51 < Arme[N]> :)
19:15 < AgaviBot> News from Agavi: Timeline at http://trac.agavi.org/timeline :
19:15 < AgaviBot> 1) http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/362 : Ticket #362 (defect created): when a validator using the argument base fails for multiple arguments the last error will overwrite all previous ones
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19:44 < kaos> btw, ttj i tested your routing problem
19:44 < kaos> worked without problems even in 1 route
19:49 < Wombert> digitarald: ping?
19:52 < Wombert> digitarald: woot
19:52 < Wombert> yes that is a bug
19:52 < Wombert> gawwwwd am I stupid
19:52 < Wombert> or not?
19:52 < Wombert> uhm
19:52 < Wombert> no!
19:52 < Wombert> xD
19:53 < Wombert> SID (string)
19:53 < Wombert> Constant containing either the session name and session ID in the form of "name=ID" or empty string if session ID was set in an appropriate session cookie.
19:53 < Wombert> !
19:53 < Wombert> no no
19:53 < Wombert> it's okay like this
19:53 < Wombert> because
19:54 < Wombert> if SID is empty
19:54 < Wombert> cookies were used to pass the session id
19:54 < Wombert> if it is not empty
19:54 < Wombert> the session id was passed in via URL
19:54 < Wombert> then I add the session id as an argument to the params
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19:54 < Wombert> IF use_trans_sid is set to true
19:56 < digitarald> BUT ...
19:56 < digitarald> i want to force the SID
19:57 < digitarald> the SID in the URL, not the defined SID ;)
19:57 < digitarald> if u use use_trans_sid i really want to see the sid in the url ... don't want to have them optionally if the user don't support cookies
20:00 < Wombert> this check is only performed to see whether or not it is necessary to append the URL
20:00 < Wombert> eh the session id to the url
20:00 < Wombert> it won't use "SID"
20:00 < Wombert> it will use "SESSNAME=45454sac5a4sd4c5a45c4a5c45s"
20:00 < Wombert> as I said, it will never append it by default
20:00 < Wombert> because it's a bit of a security risk and people should enable fucking cookies in their browsers
20:01 < Wombert> however, you can enable use_trans_sid
20:01 < Wombert> either individually for each gen() call
20:01 < Wombert> or you change the default option in the factories config
20:01 < Wombert> now if you never want to use cookies
20:01 < Wombert> you have to set the respective php ini setting
20:02 < Wombert> ini_set('session.use_cookies', false);
20:03 < Wombert> or
20:03 < Wombert> you don't enable agavi's use_trans_sid
20:03 < Wombert> and you do
20:03 < Wombert> ini_set('session.use_cookies', false);
20:03 < Wombert> and
20:03 < Wombert> ini_set('session.use_trans_sid', true);
20:03 < Wombert> then PHP will automatically append the sid to all links and form actions
20:04 < Wombert> also remember
20:04 < Wombert> Note: The arg_separator.output php.ini directive allows to customize the argument seperator. For full XHTML conformance, specify &amp; there.
20:04 < Wombert> it's usually & by default
20:04 < digitarald> so using use_trans_sid should force the SESSNAME=32bits to the url?
20:05 < Wombert> the agavi one?
20:05 < Wombert> or the php ini setting
20:05 < digitarald> agavi
20:05 < Wombert> no
20:05 < Wombert> as I said, it will only append it if necessary
20:05 < Wombert> i.e. if no cookies are accepted by the client
20:05 < Wombert> if you want it to always be there, set
20:05 < Wombert> ini_set('session.use_cookies', false);
20:05 < digitarald> but when u say use_trans_sid that means REALLY_USE_trans_sid
20:06 < Wombert> no
20:06 < Wombert> that means it behaves exactly like http://de3.php.net/manual/en/ref.session.php#ini.session.use-trans-sid
20:06 < Wombert> but without having to have that on
20:06 < Wombert> or compiled in
20:06 < digitarald> this urls are for flash ... flash don't know the browser cookies properly. so, when i do an upload in flash on an url without the sess-id the user is not logged in
20:06 < Wombert> ah I see
20:07 < digitarald> i don't want to set ini values when i just generate 3 urls ... No Way!
20:07 < Wombert> aaaah
20:07 < Wombert> so your problem is that you want to enforce the sid no matter what
20:07 < Wombert> I see
20:07 < Wombert> simple
20:07 < digitarald> u see this parameter ... agavi can't know if it's really necessary ... if a developer give this parameter he should know if its necessary
20:07 < Wombert> $r->gen('routename', array(session_name() => session_id());
20:08 < digitarald> mh ... that's too easy ;) ... i want a cryptic option :D
20:08 < Wombert> no, the use_trans_sid option simply mimic's php's own session.use_trans_sid behavior, which also only appends the sid if the client does not accept cookies
20:09 < digitarald> the maybe add force_trans_sid ;) ... i take your solution
20:09 < CPUnerd> digitarald, $r->gen('routename', array(session_name() => md5(session_id())));
20:09 < Wombert> not md5
20:09 < digitarald> md5?
20:09 < Wombert> no
20:09 < digitarald> encrypt the id? mmhh
20:10 < Wombert> that won't work because php wouldn't know to decrypt it
20:11 < digitarald> Wombert: Flashupload (w/o agavi) ... http://dev.digitarald.de/uplooad.html
20:12 < digitarald> so no forcing parameter ... thx Wombert
20:13 < digitarald> next problem ... mmhh ... trying to find one ...
20:13 < Wombert> digitarald: it's too much of an edge case, really
20:13 < digitarald> no, its ok ... no sarcasm in the thx ;)
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20:36 < Wombert> digitarald: btw why do you use flash? :>
20:36 < Wombert> you could upload in an iframe and use php 5.2s upload progress meter
20:36 < Wombert> which is not documented yet though :>
20:37 < digitarald> because with flash i can have a filechooser with filter and multiple-select
20:38 < digitarald> the progress meter are just gimmick
20:38 < Wombert> ah
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21:48 < Wombert> v-dogg: ping
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22:40 < um> Wombert: I have not seen Macca`.
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22:41 < Wombert> I wonder where he is
22:45 < impl> He's on #php on EFnet if you want to bug him
22:46 < v-dogg> whose bot is um?
22:46 < v-dogg> and can we silence him?
22:52 < Wombert> it probably just needs someone from russia and a bottle of wodka to pay him
23:02 < Wombert> or a couple million dollars if we want him silenced using polonium
23:02 < Wombert> xD
23:09 < kaos> anyone here has a clue about LR(1) parsers ? xD
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06:36 < CIA-11> dominik * r1412 /branches/0.11/src/validator/ (AgaviBaseFileValidator.class.php AgaviValidator.class.php): 
06:36 < CIA-11> add a method which allows the validator to provide the keys for the current base
06:36 < CIA-11> refs #361
07:00 < CIA-11> dominik * r1413 /branches/0.11/src/validator/ (AgaviOperatorValidator.class.php AgaviValidator.class.php): some refactoring
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07:46 < peter_11> what's up agavi crew?
07:46 < peter_11> I haven't been here in about a year
07:47 < peter_11> how is agavi land?
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08:10 < Arme[N]> morning
08:23 < v-dogg> huomenta
08:32 < CIA-11> dominik * r1414 /branches/0.11/src/util/AgaviDecimalFormatter.class.php: enable setting of the rounding mode in the decimal formatter
08:33 < CIA-11> dominik * r1415 /branches/0.11/src/translation/ (2 files): allow rounding mode to be set via the "rounding_mode" parameter of the <currency_formatter> and <number_formatter>
08:45 < horros> hahaha
08:46 < horros> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC062560581033.aspx?CategoryID=CT101450061033
08:48  * v-dogg bookmarks this page
08:55 < CIA-11> dominik * r1416 /branches/0.11/src/translation/AgaviDateFormatter.class.php: fix date formatter not switching to the locales format when being used with a custom locale
09:11 < splatch`> hello
09:38 < CIA-11> dominik * r1417 /branches/0.11/src/date/AgaviDateFormat.class.php: 
09:38 < CIA-11> fixed the h and k hour patterns
09:38 < CIA-11> closes #363
10:08 < CIA-11> dominik * r1418 /branches/0.11/src/translation/ (2 files): use the timezone specified in the locales option when creating new calendar objects and when formatting them
10:13 < v-dogg> dominik is on fire
10:33 < CIA-11> dominik * r1419 /branches/0.11/src/translation/AgaviTranslationManager.class.php: allow setting only options to the current locale by using _c(123, null, '@currency=USD'); or _d(time(), null, '@timezone=Europe/London'); for example
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10:40 < kaos> uhm, yup xD
10:40 < CIA-11> dominik * r1420 /branches/0.11/src/translation/AgaviTranslationManager.class.php: allow accessing the default domain when specifying "subparts" of the domain by using ".menu" instead of "default.menu" in the _* methods
10:51 < Wombert> zomg
10:53 < horros> gmoz
10:53 < CIA-11> dominik * r1421 /branches/0.11/docs/docbook/manual.xml: some words on i18n in the guide
11:08 < Wombert> AgaviWebRequest::getFileName and getFileNmaes are horribly inconsistent
11:08 < Wombert> any suggestions
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18:36 < Whisller> Hi
18:38 < Whisller> I must set in validator a two options min and max and how i can do it? This is a good? http://phpfi.com/182707
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18:47 < Whisller> I asking because when i have set max and send empty form this error are displayed O.o
18:49 < Whisller> *error for max
19:00 < Whisller> In cache i see, i have set min = 1 in max definition
19:04 < v-dogg> http://phpfi.com/182717
19:04 < v-dogg> that's the way to go
19:05 < v-dogg> hope it works, gotta go ->
19:05 < v-dogg> :)
19:05 < v-dogg> later
19:13 < CPUnerd> moin moin humans
19:13 < Wombert> hi
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19:19 < CPUnerd> perhaps you should make something like <parameter type="integer" min="1" max="50" />
19:19 < Wombert> no
19:19 < Wombert> that won't work
19:19 < CPUnerd> why not ?
19:19 < CPUnerd> not with the current business server code,but could be a cool change to add someday
19:20 < CPUnerd> you are using simplexml right ?
19:20 < Wombert> because parameters have only name and value, they are standardized
19:20 < Wombert> the thing is
19:20 < CPUnerd> or xmlreader?
19:20 < Wombert> no
19:20 < Wombert> neither
19:20 < CPUnerd> :O
19:20 < Wombert> we transform the xml to an intermediate format
19:20 < Wombert> this way, you could also use yaml configs etc
19:20 < CPUnerd> oh ok
19:21 < CPUnerd> that makes sense but still, do you need more than one config style ?
19:21 < Wombert> this intermediate format is then passed to the config handlers
19:21 < CPUnerd> although I do like the fact that you are using standarized configuration parameters.
19:21 < Wombert> which compile it to optimized php code
19:21 < CPUnerd> I didn't have tiem to write the article yet :)
19:21 < Wombert> heh
19:23 < CPUnerd> I am currently writting a new standard for the w3c, if it gets accepted it's gonna be awesome
19:23 < Wombert> errr
19:23 < Wombert> a new standard for what?
19:25 < CPUnerd> I can't say much but let's say it's for social networks
19:25 < CPUnerd> VERY VERY VERY useful if followed correctly
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20:00 < MrJeep> hi
20:01 < MrJeep> how can I specify more than one optional parameter in the routing pattern ?
20:01 < MrJeep> <route name="request"  pattern="^/request/(map:\S+)?/(qry:\S+)?" module="Document" action="Index" />
20:02 < MrJeep> in this case, If I'm right, without any parameters, the url will be /request// ?
20:03 < MrJeep> i'd like to match /request/map and /request/map/xpath/query/to
20:17 < digitarald> ... /request(/{map:\S+})?(/{qry:\S+})?
20:21 < MrJeep> thank you
20:34 < MrJeep> hum I was wondering if some breaking changes occured with the AgaviXmlConfigParser class ?
20:35 < MrJeep> nevermind
20:43 < Whisller> v-dogg, I used your example(earlier i has this), but when i trying display errors(http://phpfi.com/182739) i don't see it. But input have class error.
20:46 < Whisller> hmm
20:46 < Whisller> wait
20:46 < MrJeep> digit : I'm working on the pattern you gave me, however, it sounds like parameters cannot have the / values
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21:00 < kaos> MrJeep: /request(/{map:[^/]})?(/{qry:\S+})?
21:00 < kaos> is probably what your problem is
21:00 < kaos> or something like that
21:00 < kaos> what can "map" be ?
21:00 < kaos> alphanum ?
21:00 < kaos> or anything ?
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21:06 < MrJeep> string
21:07 < MrJeep> but qry is an xpath query
21:08 < kaos> hmm
21:08 < kaos> what url doesn't get accepted ?
21:09 < MrJeep> 1 min, I'll test somethign
21:10 < MrJeep> at this point the map parameter is not even set
21:11 < kaos> hmm
21:11 < kaos> so the route doesn't get matched at all ?
21:12 < MrJeep> the route get matched, but I have the wrong parameters
21:12 < MrJeep> like
21:12 < MrJeep> http://localhost:81/Project/Open/Tiger/Development/www/request/map2
21:12 < MrJeep> the map parameter is map1
21:12 < MrJeep> the qry parameter is map2
21:13 < MrJeep> (map1 is taken from a default value since it's not matched
21:13 < kaos> uh
21:14 < kaos> that actually is not the way the regexp should behave xD
21:14 < kaos> i'll check that in a minute
21:14 < MrJeep> ok
21:14 < MrJeep> should I set a \S in the map:[] ?
21:14 < MrJeep> the map will always be a string
21:15 < MrJeep> and qry will have // character.. well, xpath characters
21:15 < kaos> this won't help i think
21:19 < Whisller> Validator add parameter "min" to parameters but i dont set it...http://phpfi.com/182750
21:21 < Whisller> i thing this isn't a requested action
21:22 < Whisller> What do you think?
21:24 < MrJeep> well, lets say both parameters are required
21:25 < Whisller> hmm but. when i wanna display error when value are > as 50 but when are < as 0 no
21:25 < Whisller> *< 1
21:26 < MrJeep> ^/request/(map:\S+?)/(qry:\S+)$
21:26 < MrJeep> both param are matched
21:26 < kaos> MrJeep: you'r missing a ? at the end
21:26 < kaos> eh
21:26 < kaos> no
21:26 < kaos> its
21:27 < MrJeep> however, if I add // for the query, the // are not added 
21:28 < kaos> index.php/request/qry/foo//bar -> <route name="request"  pattern="^/request/(map:\S+?)/(qry:\S+)$" module="Default" action="Index"> 
21:28 < kaos>   'map' => 'qry' (length=3)
21:28 < kaos>   'qry' => 'foo//bar' (length=8)
21:28 < kaos> ^^
21:29 < kaos> what exactly do you want to match, an optional map followed by a query (which is required?!)
21:29 < MrJeep> it's for an ajax module
21:29 < MrJeep> i have a big xml file and I want to query it with ajax
21:29 < MrJeep> I want to give an xpath query because I don't need all the xml file data everytime
21:30 < MrJeep> it's for a geo/statistic project with SVg
21:30 < MrJeep> the map parameter is the name of the xml file, and .. well, the query is the xpath query
21:31 < MrJeep> lets say both parameters are required
21:32 < kaos> well, then the last pattern you quoted here should work
21:33 < MrJeep> except agavi thinks one / is like /////
21:34 < MrJeep> this url : http://localhost:81/Project/Open/Tiger/Development/www/request/map1///query
21:34 < MrJeep> give those parameters
21:34 < MrJeep> MAP : map1
21:34 < MrJeep> QRY : query
21:35 < Wombert> the problem here is
21:35 < Wombert> that the queries are optional
21:35 < Wombert> query and map
21:35 < Wombert> the regexp is too greedy
21:35 < MrJeep> no, nothing's optional
21:35 < MrJeep> I want to make it simple so nothing's optional
21:36 < Wombert> oh
21:36 < MrJeep> both parameters have to be set
21:36 < Wombert> hm true
21:36 < kaos> pattern="^/request/(map:\S+?)/(qry:\S+)$"
21:36 < kaos> works here
21:37 < MrJeep> hum, the // are still not added to the qry parameter
21:37 < MrJeep> odd
21:38 < kaos> hmm, maybe some apache2 issue with the rewrite ? 
21:38 < MrJeep> hum possibly
21:38 < kaos> have you tried index.php/request/map1///query1 ?
21:38 < Whisller> why this does't work :/ http://phpfi.com/182757
21:39 < Whisller> $req->getErrorMessages() return empty array
21:39 < MrJeep> yep
21:39 < MrJeep> but no //
21:39 < MrJeep> my re-write rules
21:39 < MrJeep> RewriteRule ^$ index.php?/ [QSA,L]
21:39 < MrJeep> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
21:39 < MrJeep> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
21:39 < MrJeep> RewriteRule (.*) index.php?/$1 [QSA,L]
21:40 < MrJeep> the server Request_uri is fine 
21:43 < kaos> hmmm
21:43 < MrJeep> I can add an infinite ammount of /, still doesn't work
21:45 < MrJeep> OS issue ?
21:45 < MrJeep> what's your os ?
21:46 < CIA-11> dominik * r1422 /branches/0.11/src/validator/ (AgaviValidator.class.php AgaviValidatorManager.class.php): 
21:46 < CIA-11> all validators store the result for each validated field no in the validation manager
21:46 < CIA-11> fix typo in the validator
21:46 < kaos> xp
21:46 < kaos> but i'm using apache 1.3
21:47 < MrJeep> ok
21:47 < kaos> Whisller: the problem is that an empty string doesn't even reach the string validator
21:47 < kaos> so you need to remove the for="min"
21:48 < MrJeep> well, I think I'll just turn off the rouing for the moment
21:48 < kaos> you still use normal query params with the routing on as well
21:49 < kaos> like ?qry=foo...
21:49 < MrJeep> oh didn't know that
21:49 < Wombert> how may I help with this problem
21:50 < Whisller> kaos, hmm then how i can do it :> when i using http://phpfi.com/182750 errors also are disabled when i have other validator with min=1. error for.. also doesn't work :>
21:52 < Whisller> *displayed
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21:54 < MrJeep> it is possible to turn a DOMNodeList into a DOMDocument ?
21:54 < MrJeep> i'm trying to create a new dom document with the node list, when I call appendChild, i get "
21:54 < MrJeep> 			Wrong Document Error
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22:05 < Whisller> can someone help me :(
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22:14 < MrJeep> jeez
22:14 < MrJeep> this DOM stuff with php is so odd
22:15 < MrJeep> an xpath query returns a DOMNodeList
22:15 < MrJeep> the item() method returns a DOMNode
22:15 < Wombert> yeah sure
22:15 < Wombert> of course
22:15 < Wombert> !?
22:15 < MrJeep> yeah
22:15 < MrJeep> but
22:15 < MrJeep> 			$xml = new DOMDocument();
22:15 < MrJeep> 			$doc = $xml->createElement('document');
22:15 < MrJeep> 			for ($i = 0; $i < $res->length; $i++)
22:15 < MrJeep> 			{
22:15 < MrJeep> $doc->appendChild($res->item($i));
22:15 < MrJeep> }
22:15 < MrJeep> this doesn't work !
22:16 < MrJeep> Wrong document error
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22:17 < impl> You probably have to clone it
22:17 < MrJeep> $res is a DOMNodeList
22:17 < impl> Or there's an import method
22:17 < impl> Hold on
22:17 < Wombert> importNode, yes
22:17 < impl> http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.dom-domdocument-importnode.php
22:18 < MrJeep> I hope this will work :D
22:21 < Whisller> ehh ok now everything looks fine...required="false" ;)
22:22 < Whisller> in max validate devinition
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22:39 < MrJeep> damn, PHP dom is so fucked up
22:39 < MrJeep> importNode does absolutely nothing
22:40 < Wombert> it returns a new node
22:40 < MrJeep> lol
22:41 < impl> $doc->appendChild($doc->importNode($res->item($i)))
22:42 < MrJeep> oh god
22:42 < MrJeep> thanks
22:42 < MrJeep> I was SO getting pissed of
22:42 < MrJeep> thanks !
22:43 < impl> No problem
22:43 < Wombert> "This function returns a copy of the node to import and associates it with the current document."
22:43 < Wombert> ;)
22:45 < MrJeep> yeah, I missed that. I tend to miss stuff when I'm "debugging" the same thing all day long
22:45 < MrJeep> with domnode domelement appendchild not working brah! it was getting crazy
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22:51 < kaos_> Whisller: the error handling in the validation works as follows: you usually define a generic error message for that validator with <error>Error Message</error>
22:52 < kaos_> if you don't define anything else this message will be used for all errors
22:52 < kaos_> (its wise to define that error all the time, since all validators can fail without an specific error 
22:53 < kaos_> then you can define different error messages for different errors (like min, max, etc)
22:54 < Whisller> hmm
22:55 < kaos_> the generic error message will be thrown when the field which should be validated is not set (which includes the value being an empty string, which is why you don
22:55 < kaos_> 't see your min error)
22:55 < kaos_> when using min=1
22:55 < kaos_> and required=false makes the validator succeed when value is not set or empty string
22:56 < kaos_> no matter what you defined in the validator
22:56 < Whisller> i must use dictionary...wait for a moment
22:58 < Whisller> kaos, but when i have error for min(min=1), and max(max=10) and send form with empty field the error from max also are displayed.
22:59 < Wombert> probably because you didn't specify a generic error message
22:59 < kaos_> no
22:59 < kaos_> or "maybe"
22:59 < Wombert> bbiab
22:59 < kaos_> gotta check the source
23:00 < Whisller> Wombert, in /cache/ in validate max i have also set min - min=1
23:00 < Whisller> end when i have empty field this error are displayed
23:01 < Whisller> wait
23:01 < kaos_> yes, the string validator actually has default parameter
23:01 < kaos_> which is 1 ;)
23:01 < kaos_> for min
23:01 < Whisller> http://phpfi.com/182772
23:01 < Whisller> yes
23:03 < Whisller> this is ok? a set a default min in max parameter :>
23:04 < kaos_> yes
23:04 < Whisller> why?
23:04 < kaos_> why wouldn't you set min and max ? 
23:05 < Whisller> no no no min and max why in max min = 1?
23:06 < kaos_> well, its the default, which the validator will use when you don't specify min
23:07 < Whisller> heh ok.
23:07 < kaos_> and its no different from min not being set at all
23:07 < kaos_> because of the behaviour explained above
23:07 < Whisller> ok :)
23:07 < kaos_> since min=1 can never fail really (at least not with the "min" error)
23:08 < Whisller> thanks very mutch :)
23:08 < kaos_> so you could set min=0 and it would still fail (since it doesn't even reach the check for the minimum length ... which should be changed perhaps)
23:08 < Whisller> yes min=0 doesn't work with max
23:09 < Whisller> in max
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00:21 < jordansjones> Test.. Please ignore..
00:54 < MrJeep> anyone here's using mootools for ajax ?
00:56 < MrJeep> because I don't find a way to get the responseXml ;s
00:58 < MrJeep> the callback function takes 2 parameters, the responseText and xml, however, the response xml is always null
01:01 < Wombert> you probably have to send a proper mime type
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01:10 < MrJeep> hum good idea
01:19 < digitarald> MrJeep, maybe ask that in #mootools channel ;) I think a proper header is what is u need
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01:56 < Wombert> MrJeep: you know how to do this ajax thing with agavi?
02:25 < Whisller> how i can get access to getLocaleLanguage() getLocaleTerritory()...?
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04:54  * Wombert re
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07:54  * Wombert yawns
07:54 < ttj> *yawn*
07:54 < ttj> 2 hours and 6 minutes until I get slaughtered.
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08:02 -!- Topic for #agavi: Agavi 0.11 RC 1 released :: www.agavi.org :: http://svn.agavi.org/branches/0.11/ if you want to use SVN :: Have a question? Just ask it, and wait patiently, because patience is the key to happiness :: We're looking for documentation contributors and developers :: http://trac.agavi.org/milestone/0.11 :: anonymous ticket posting possible again :: irc logs http://users.tkk.fi/~tjorri/agavi/logs/
08:02 -!- Topic set by Wombert [] [Sun Nov 26 17:52:41 2006]
08:02 [Users #agavi]
08:02 [ impl] [ ttj] 
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08:04 < Wombert> ttj: huh?
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08:07 < ttj> Wombert: Marketing exam.
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08:42 < Wombert> good luck, ttj 
08:43 < ttj> Luck won't save me from the massacre, but thanks. :D
08:45 < ttj> Wait a minute, you're up quite early, Wombert...?
08:45 < Wombert> trying to adjust my sleep cycles
08:45 < Wombert> gonna sleep now for three hours
08:46 < ttj> You switching to some polyphasic sleep routine?
08:48 < Wombert> no
08:48 < Wombert> heard about these but
08:48 < Wombert> that's nonsense
08:48 < Wombert> I've been up since yesterday... 5p or so
08:49 < ttj> Ok. I also find that if you just skip one night's sleep and then stay up until the following evening, you'll get a decent routine back.
08:49 < Wombert> I'm trying that yeah but
08:49 < Wombert> I need so get _some_ sleep
08:50 < Wombert> otherwise I won't be able to do any coding or whatever toda
08:50 < Wombert> y
08:50 < ttj> I just sacrifice the day. :-)
08:51 < ttj> But yeah, hope you do wake up in 3 hours instead of the 10 hours I sleep if I fail. :-)
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11:17 < firman> moin moin
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11:45 < v-dogg> huomenta
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11:49 < firman> what is huomenta?
11:50 < v-dogg> morning in finnish :)
11:50 < firman> oh i see :D
11:51 < firman> btw, is it downloadable agavi guide out there?
11:51 < v-dogg> no, you have to build it yourself or use the one in agavi.org
11:52 < v-dogg> the easiest way to build it (html, pdf) is probably to use XMLMind editor
11:52 < firman> ah, docbook build then
11:53 < firman> XMLMind, okay, lemme try
11:53 < v-dogg> I have it here ready if you don't want to do it yourself?
11:54 < firman> that's great
11:54 < v-dogg> just a sec
11:54 < firman> which format?
11:55 < v-dogg> html, pdf or rtf
11:55 < v-dogg> which would you prefer?
11:55 < v-dogg> ups... pdf rendering failed...
11:55 < firman> no chm one?
11:56 < firman> html is better then
11:58 < v-dogg> do you need the cookbook and the intro, too?
11:58 < firman> yep, both would be great :D
12:04 < v-dogg> http://veikkomakinen.com/temp/manual.zip, docbook.zip and introduction.zip
12:06 < firman> thanks a lot, you're so great! ;)
12:07 < v-dogg> np
12:07 < firman> downloaded
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12:34 < firman> what's different between agavi-manual-html.xsl and agavi-manual-html-common.xsl?
12:34 < firman> moin Wombert :)
12:35 < Wombert> ah
12:35 < Wombert> that's just hte stylesheets
12:37 < firman> looks no different except a comment <!--xsl:import href="../docbook-xsl-1.71.1/xhtml/chunk.xsl" /--> and <!--xsl:import href="C:/workspace/xslt/1.71.0/xhtml/chunk.xsl" /-->
12:39 < Wombert> mh yeah
12:39 < Wombert> we probably have to re-do all these stylesheets
12:40 < Wombert> they create pretty poor html, unfortunately
12:40 < firman> yes i think so
12:41 < firman> also provides a htmlhelp stylesheet too :)
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12:41 < Whisller> hi
12:42 < firman> so we can build a chm
12:42 < Wombert> for example, deleted stuff is done as <span class="deleted"> or so
12:42 < Wombert> instead of <del>
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12:44 < firman> yep exactly
12:47 < Whisller> Little stupid question(I think)how I can get access to getLocaleLanguage, getCountries...?
12:47 < Wombert> from the current locale
12:47 < Wombert> or any locale for that matter
12:48 < Whisller> hmm can you explain it :(
12:49 < Whisller> current locale...but how get access to this thing
12:50 < Wombert> did you setup any locales yet?
12:51 < Whisller> ooo $tm->setLocale ? yes?
12:52 < Whisller> Or maybe are any manual about translate .... or something like that
12:52 < Whisller> *translation
12:54 < Whisller> ok :)
12:54 < Wombert> no
12:54 < Wombert> ehm
12:55 <